“Entropy” | Dr. Conrad Vine

Uh good morning everybody. Can you hear me out there?
0:099 secondsYes. [clears throat] All right. Well, it’s a privilege to come and share with you again. Um [clears throat] and uh
0:1616 secondsit’s uh I arrived yesterday in in Spokane. You know, God really blessed. I was uh I got on the plane and you kind of say, “Lord, who am I going to sit
0:2424 secondsnext to today?” And um I this young lady sat sat down next to me and uh she said, “Are you Dr. Vine?” I said, “Well, yes,
0:3232 secondsI am.” And she said, “Well, I wanted to talk to you.” I thought, “Oh, no.” And
0:3737 seconds[clears throat]
0:3838 secondsand uh it turns out this lady is a very devout Bible faithful Adventist. Um and
0:4545 secondsuh she works as a senior adviser to RFK Jr. in the federal government.
0:5151 secondsAnd uh I asked her, we we chatted for four and a half hours all the way from Chicago to Sparkan on the plane. The time just went flew by. And um I I was I
1:011 minute, 1 secondwas saying to her, you know, God has placed you like Esther in the midst of a pagan court. And uh uh she said, “Yes, yeah. They all know about the Sabbath.
1:091 minute, 9 secondsThey all know that I stop work at 4:00 every Friday and I pick up pick up again on Sunday.” And um you know, you never know who you’re going to meet in life.
1:171 minute, 17 secondsUm but if you go through life and say, “Lord, give me somebody today. Bring somebody into my life who I can talk with and share some something with.” Um God’s going to answer that prayer. And
1:261 minute, 26 secondsso it was a blessed journey coming across yesterday. I was kind of reluctant when we came into land because it was a really good conversation. It’s not often you get to speak with someone
1:341 minute, 34 secondsum you know who who knows the president and the vice president and all the senior officers of government and so forth. And um but it was wonderful to
1:421 minute, 42 secondssee a god-fearing young Adventist lady in the highest levels of government and her job is to encourage governments around the world to adopt pro- family
1:511 minute, 51 secondsgovernment policies. And so it was just a privilege to meet her on the plane yesterday and so I thought this trip’s off to a good start if you have a flight
1:581 minute, 58 secondslike that. So I bring greetings from my wife. Um she’s back in Bering Springs today. Um we’ve been on the road for
2:062 minutes, 6 secondsabout the last 3 months non-stop and so um she’s spending this weekend at home uh because you know some things have to
2:142 minutes, 14 secondshave to be taken care of at home as you know and uh we’ve just been uh had in Michigan our camp meeting this week and
2:212 minutes, 21 secondsthe um the the text for the camp meeting the theme text was Isaiah 58:1 which is
2:282 minutes, 28 secondscry aloud and spare not and lift up your voice like a trumpet and tell my people their transgression. and the house of
2:352 minutes, 35 secondsJacob, their sins. Uh, so I thought that was very appropriate text for the Michigan camp meeting. Um, because of
2:432 minutes, 43 secondscourse you’re not allowed to do that in Michigan. So [clears throat] anyway, whether was a Freudian slip, I don’t know how that text got put in as a theme for the camp meeting. So it’s a
2:512 minutes, 51 secondsprivilege to come and share with you today. You know, uh, preparing uh, speaking the word of God is a joy. Uh, two weeks ago I was in Slovenia with my wife. We did a an evangelistic series.
3:003 minutesThere’s no greater joy than leading people to the foot of the cross and into the kingdom of God. And uh we saw the whole gamut of like spiritual warfare
3:093 minutes, 9 secondsand people wrestling with Buddhism and the occult and Catholicism and secularism and despair. And you know by
3:173 minutes, 17 secondsby the end of that series, God gave the victory and we had the first baptism there and for many members were crying because they said we can’t we don’t remember the last time we saw a baptism.
3:263 minutes, 26 secondsand and it’s just uh just struck me that sometimes we share information for the sake of sharing information. No, we we’re to share we’re to preach in order
3:343 minutes, 34 secondsto gain decisions for Christ and so that people can choose to be in his kingdom and ready for Jesus when he comes again.
3:413 minutes, 41 secondsSo, um it’s my privilege to come and share with you today our sermon today is entitled Entropy. If we can move to the
3:483 minutes, 48 secondsother slides, please. Uh this is what we’re going to do after lunch. And uh there was it’s going to be called entropy. Um and uh so I’ll show you our
3:583 minutes, 58 secondsjourney in a few seconds when it comes up on the screen. Uh we’re going to go on a little journey here today. Um [clears throat] you know I some some
4:054 minutes, 5 secondssermons you enjoy preparing and preaching. Other sermons you feel compelled to put together and to deliver and other sermons um it feels like
4:144 minutes, 14 secondsyou’re going to start um you know you’re going to go in for like um colonoscopy or some unpleasant medical treatment.
4:204 minutes, 20 secondsAnd this sermon feels like that. All right. Um, [clears throat] and uh, you know, when when when when when God puts
4:284 minutes, 28 secondsa burden on your heart to preach something, sometimes you say, “Thank you, Lord.” And sometimes you think, “Oh, why me, oh Lord?” And I’m saying, “Why me, oh Lord,” this morning? And
4:374 minutes, 37 secondsyou’ll understand why as we go through this. But I’m going to speak to the times in which we live. I’m speaking to the times that are happening within our
4:454 minutes, 45 secondsown church actually, and what we can do about it as Bible faithful Adventists.
4:494 minutes, 49 secondsSo, this is our journey here today. uh we’re going to look at entropy in the first dimension among members and pastors, members and conferences,
4:574 minutes, 57 secondsmembers in the general conference, administrators and ideology, the impact of this institutional entropy and what can we do as members. So that’s the
5:045 minutes, 4 secondsjourney we’re going to go along today and um I I ask you pray for me as I share this because you know I’ve I’ve learned that preaching can change lives.
5:145 minutes, 14 secondsIt’s changed my life um not always in a good way and this has the potential to do the same thing today. So, I’m asking
5:215 minutes, 21 secondsthat you pray for this preacher uh because when you stand up and you you talk about these realities, um you understand there’s a consequence to be paid for preaching sermons like this.
5:315 minutes, 31 secondsBut I pro I spoke with Pastor Al Fletcher. He said, “Brother Vine, we want people who speak the truth in this pulpit.” And so I said, “Well, I’ll
5:395 minutes, 39 secondspreach the truth.” And uh the consequences we then leave in the hands of God. So let’s bow your heads with me and we ask for the pleas presence of the
5:475 minutes, 47 secondsHoly Spirit. Heavenly Father, we thank you today for the gift of Jesus who came filled with grace and with truth.
5:585 minutes, 58 secondsLord, he spoke words that won the hard of heart.
6:046 minutes, 4 secondsHe spoke words that attracted little children. He spoke words that rebuked Satan.
6:116 minutes, 11 secondsHe spoke words of comfort to the grieving moms. He spoke words of hope to the dying thief.
6:176 minutes, 17 secondsAnd Lord, whatever I words I share this morning, may they be words from your throne of grace.
6:246 minutes, 24 secondsLord, we are to contend for the faith that has been passed on to us. It’s not easy to do that, Father.
6:316 minutes, 31 secondsIt’s not easy to be the man or woman in the arena.
6:366 minutes, 36 secondsBut I’m asking that you be in the arena today and you fight your cause and that your name be glorified in this congregation and around our conference and our division and our world church.
6:486 minutes, 48 secondsLord, we pray for our leaders. We pray for our administrators. We pray for our pastors. We pray for our educators.
6:566 minutes, 56 secondsLord, it’s hard to swim against the cultural zeitgeist.
7:007 minutesLord, to be healthy in America and to be fit and healthy, you’ve got to be countercultural.
7:077 minutes, 7 secondsAnd Lord, to be fit and healthy spiritually, we also have to be willing to go against the popular culture.
7:157 minutes, 15 secondsSo Lord, as I share now, I ask that you speak through me and for me. Will we speak these words as was Christ full of
7:227 minutes, 22 secondsgrace and truth in the hope and the assurance that your word will yield a harvest of righteousness for your
7:307 minutes, 30 secondskingdom. So Lord we give these moments into your hands in the name of Jesus we humbly ask. Amen.
7:377 minutes, 37 secondsSo you may be asking yourself what exactly is entropy?
7:427 minutes, 42 secondsAnd um when I was at school I got out of the sciences as quickly as I could. I hated the sciences. Um, I know if you’re
7:497 minutes, 49 secondsa scientist say or a medical professional or something, praise the Lord. I’m grateful for you. But I hated the sciences. Um, um, I’m not sure why I
7:577 minutes, 57 secondshated them. Um, I didn’t like biology cuz I didn’t like, you know, dissecting frogs on the on the the classroom table.
8:048 minutes, 4 secondsAnd, um, physics was just a mystery to me. Um, but I do remember one thing about physics other than apples dropped from trees. Uh, what I do remember from
8:128 minutes, 12 secondsphysics was the second law of thermodynamics. And that was impressed upon us, the second law of thermodynamics. I don’t know what the first law is. I don’t know what the
8:208 minutes, 20 secondsthird law is. I don’t know how many laws of thermodynamics there are. But I do know that there is the second law of thermodynamics which presumes the first.
8:278 minutes, 27 secondsAnd that the second law of thermodynamics is the law of entropy.
8:328 minutes, 32 secondsAnd the law of entropy states that um that uh in the in a in a universe such as ours, the state of entropy will
8:408 minutes, 40 secondsalways increase over time. And you go, uh what’s he talking about? Well, this is what it means in practice. Entropy means this. If you boil a kettle of
8:498 minutes, 49 secondswater and just leave it on on the on in the kitchen, will that water stay warm throughout the day or will it go become cold?
8:568 minutes, 56 secondsIt become cold. Yes. So the the the hot form will degenerate to the cold form.
9:029 minutes, 2 secondsUh another practical example, if you light a bonfire um tonight and you put all the wood there and you set it on fire and it burns and burns and burns,
9:099 minutes, 9 secondswill the fire continue burning if you don’t keep adding fresh wood? No. So the fire will will will eventually burn out.
9:179 minutes, 17 secondsAnd so this is really what we call entropy. If you wind up a clock, you know, in the old days before you had, you know, quartz clocks, if you wind up a watch and then just let it run
9:269 minutes, 26 secondsindefinitely, will it run indefinitely or will it wind down and and come to a halt? It will come to a halt. Okay. So entropy is the principle that every
9:359 minutes, 35 secondsevery closed system whether it’s the universe whether it’s your kitchen whether it’s your watch whatever it may be entropy is the principle that
9:429 minutes, 42 secondseverything eventually winds down and unless you have fresh infusions of energy such as you put the kettle back on the on the hob or you rewind your
9:519 minutes, 51 secondswatch again or you have the daily baptism of the Holy Spirit in your spiritual life. Unless you have the fresh infusion of the original power and
9:599 minutes, 59 secondsforce, what you have is going to dissipate over time. Are you with me on the law of entropy? Yes. The second law of thermodynamics. I talk about it with
10:0710 minutes, 7 secondssomebody this week and they’ll say, “What’s the first?” You’ll have no idea.
10:1010 minutes, 10 secondsBut we all know now what the second law of thermodynamics is all about. Well, uh, in from a sociological perspective,
10:1710 minutes, 17 secondsall human movements throughout history, they experience what we call entropy.
10:2210 minutes, 22 secondsAnd they that entropy is experienced in different ways. There are two ways in particular. Most mo movements start with
10:2910 minutes, 29 secondsa positive idea, a positive vision, a lot of energy, a lot of passion, and a lot of warmth. There’s a lot of warmth because you want to attract people to
10:3710 minutes, 37 secondsthat movement. But as you go through time, whatever that human organization is, that human organization degrades. So
10:4510 minutes, 45 secondsit becomes a cold, institutionalized and controlling system that has lost sight of the original vision. That’s institutional entropy.
10:5510 minutes, 55 secondsAnd when that entropy takes place in the human institution, human organizations tend to there there are two movements of people. What
11:0411 minutes, 4 secondshappens over time is that the leaders tend to become more authoritarian and absolute and the followers become more and more submissive and passive. A great example of that is the papacy.
11:1611 minutes, 16 secondsWhen the pe when the pope speaks sex cathedral, he’s infallible. You can’t argue with it. He’s speaking for God.
11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsand your job is just to accept dogma as a member of the Catholic Church. So over time, sociologically, organizations tend
11:2911 minutes, 29 secondstowards authoritarianism and unquestioning submission and obedience.
11:3411 minutes, 34 secondsThat’s where organizations go when they experience entropy.
11:3811 minutes, 38 secondsAnd I’ve been sitting and watching what’s happening within our beloved church here in North America. And we’re experiencing entropy.
11:4611 minutes, 46 secondsIt’s evident in front of our eyes.
11:4911 minutes, 49 secondsSo what’s the first kind of entropy that we’ve experienced in the last few years years? The first is the change in the relationship between members and pastors.
12:0012 minutesNow that change is not good. It’s negative. And why do I say that?
12:0712 minutes, 7 secondsWell, there was a very famous pastor in 1939. He was German. His name was Dietri Bonhofer. And um he was at a seminary in
12:1512 minutes, 15 secondsupstate New York. and he realized in the spring of 1939 that war was coming to to Europe and he realized that Adolf Hitler
12:2512 minutes, 25 secondsum having having taken the Sudatan land and pushed into modern day Czechlovakia and he had taken the Anelus he taken Austria for himself he realized that war
12:3412 minutes, 34 secondswas coming to to um Germany and to Europe and rather than staying in safety in upstate New York Dietrich Bonhaofer
12:4212 minutes, 42 secondsgot on a boat and he sailed back across the Atlantic to be a pastor for the German Confessing Church. Now the when when Adolf Hitler came to power, the
12:5012 minutes, 50 secondschurch in Germany split into two. I’m talking about Christianity in general.
12:5412 minutes, 54 secondsMost denominations accepted the Fura as Kirk the um they joined what was known as a Furka. That is the Furus church
13:0213 minutes, 2 secondsthat you all aligned with the aims of the Nazi party. And there was a group an ecumenical movement that started and they said we do not accept Hitler as
13:1013 minutes, 10 secondsfurer. We say that Christ is Lord. And they became known as the confessing church. And Dietrich Bonhofer was one of the leaders of the confessing church. He
13:1913 minutes, 19 secondswrote a brilliant book about the cost of disciplehip. You want to read it because he wrote this in the shadow of Adolf Hitler and what it means to follow Hitler. He wrote, you can get it on
13:2813 minutes, 28 secondsAmazon. It’s an incredible book. It’s a study on the sermon on the mount um that obedience and obedience and faithfulness are two sides of the same coin. I’d
13:3613 minutes, 36 secondsencourage you to read that book. But as he was going to go back to Germany, um he wrote a letter and this is what he wrote. He said, “I’ve come to the
13:4413 minutes, 44 secondsconclusion that I’ve made a mistake in coming to Ger America at this time. I must live through this difficult period
13:5213 minutes, 52 secondsin our national history along with the people of Germany. I will have no right to participate in the reconstruction of
13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsChristian life in Germany after the war if I do not share the trials of this time with my people.”
14:0614 minutes, 6 secondsSo he sailed back to Germany in 1939 knowing he was sailing into World War II knowing he was going to Germany as a
14:1514 minutes, 15 secondsvery visible and public opponent of Adolf Hitler. He ran an underground seminary um for pastors, many of whom were Lutheran, brave men at the time.
14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsAnd he was eventually imprisoned after the July 1944 plot. And uh he was executed two weeks before um that before
14:3214 minutes, 32 secondswar ended in 1945 May on the personal orders of the head of the SS Hinrich Himmler.
14:3914 minutes, 39 secondsHe sailed back to Germany because he wanted to be with his flock. What a pastor.
14:4714 minutes, 47 secondsHe could have stayed in exile. He could have stayed in New York and written sermons. The federal government would have broadcast them on, you know, Radio Free Europe or something or from the
14:5514 minutes, 55 secondsBBC. But he sailed back because he understood that sheep need a shepherd.
15:0115 minutes, 1 secondAnd shepherds stick with their flock in hard times, not just in good times.
15:0615 minutes, 6 secondsIn animal husbandry, the flock will follow the shepherd because they know the shepherds not just live with the flock, they know the shepherds will lay
15:1415 minutes, 14 secondsdown their life for the flock. A shepherd will intervene when a when a wolf, a bear, or a lion comes after the flock. The flock knows that the shepherd
15:2315 minutes, 23 secondswill defend the flock. And that is why they trust the the shepherd. They will endure heat, hunger, and drought wherever their shepherd leads because
15:3115 minutes, 31 secondsthey know that the shepherd exists to defend the flock. But something happened during our pandemic here in North America.
15:3915 minutes, 39 secondsSomething happened.
15:4115 minutes, 41 secondsThe Catholic Church said that priests could not write letters of support for members who wanted a waiver. And we
15:4915 minutes, 49 secondsadopted the same policy in the North American division.
15:5315 minutes, 53 secondsAnd many of our pastors, I think the majority of our pastors, uh, refused to write letters of support for their members when they wanted help with their religious waiverss.
16:0316 minutes, 3 secondsThere was one egregious example. It was in the states of Minnesota where the Adventist pastor would not write the letter of support. The member wrote to
16:1116 minutes, 11 secondsthe the conference and they said no. She asked um a colleague at a hospital in central Minneapolis who said, “There’s a
16:1916 minutes, 19 secondsretired Catholic priest just down the road. go and ask him. So she went and she asked him and he wrote her a letter of support for her religious waiver
16:2616 minutes, 26 secondsrequest. And then she wrote to me and she says, “So who exactly is the beast of Revelation 13?”
16:3416 minutes, 34 secondsIt was a good question. When an old Catholic priest supported this Adventist lady in her religious waiver request,
16:4116 minutes, 41 secondssome pastors did write letters such as Pastor Isaac Oluni from Stateline Church as just one example. There were some very brave pastors who stood up and stood out and stood by their flock.
16:5316 minutes, 53 secondsBut many of our pastors obeyed the conference rules and refused to support their members.
16:5916 minutes, 59 secondsWe came to realize that our pastors were not actually shepherds who we can trust in times of crisis but conference employees who prime whose primary
17:0817 minutes, 8 secondsloyalty was to the conference not to the flock and to their paychecks.
17:1317 minutes, 13 secondsBrothers and sisters, when the mark of the beast comes, every congregation will be led by volunteer elders
17:2017 minutes, 20 secondsbecause the system cannot function when you can neither know the neither buy nor sell when the mark of the beast comes.
17:2617 minutes, 26 secondsThere will be no paid pastor in the final crisis of conscience. So every pastor must decide today if he answers
17:3317 minutes, 33 secondsto God or to the conference. Does he seek the approval of men or does he seek the approval of God? Is he loyal to the
17:4017 minutes, 40 secondsflock that has been entrusted to him? Or does is he loyal to his paycheck and conference mandates? He will discover that if he’s loyal to God, he may be
17:4917 minutes, 49 secondsfired, but he will also discover that while the conference may have been his employer, God is actually his provider.
17:5717 minutes, 57 secondsWhat does Sister White says about this say about this? Prophecy Kings page 141.
18:0318 minutes, 3 secondsSo men who should be standing as faithful of guardians of God’s law have argued till policy is taken the place of faithfulness and sin is allowed to go
18:1118 minutes, 11 secondsunreproved when will the voice of faithful rebuke be heard once more in the church.
18:1818 minutes, 18 secondsSo there we’ve gone through one kind of entropy the relationship between members and pastors and many pastors are now conference
18:2718 minutes, 27 secondsemployees rather than local congregation pastors and we’ve seen in the pandemic that their primary loyalty is to the system rather than to the members. The
18:3618 minutes, 36 secondssecond kind of entropy that we’ve seen in the last five years is the entropy between members and their local conference.
18:4418 minutes, 44 secondsWe’re seeing negative changes in this relationship and we we it grieves our hearts that these changes are taking place but they are taking place. I come
18:5218 minutes, 52 secondsfrom the state of Michigan where we we live under ecclesiastical absolutism.
18:5718 minutes, 57 secondsWhat is quoted to us in every single meeting is from second selected messages. It’s a selective quote. It says Christ is the head of the church.
19:0519 minutes, 5 secondsIf there is a problem in the head of the church, Christ will fix it. Therefore, no member, no pastor, no preacher, no elder can stand up and rebuke, reprove,
19:1419 minutes, 14 secondsexhort to reformation. You must basically sit down, shut up, and pay up.
19:1919 minutes, 19 secondsNobody can question the leadership in Michigan.
19:2319 minutes, 23 secondsNow, let’s ask why did we establish conferences in the first place? Let’s go back to foundations here. When we established conferences in 1863 and
19:3119 minutes, 31 seconds1864, we established them because for 20 years from 1844 to 1863, Adventists were
19:3819 minutes, 38 secondsmeeting in barns in the homes of of people with large homes in their fields.
19:4319 minutes, 43 secondsAnd that worked well. But what happens if you wanted to maybe expand the barn and so the members would expand the barn, then the owner of the barn would
19:5019 minutes, 50 secondsdecide to leave the Advent movement and he take that barn with him. And so people saying,”Well, if we want to um own buildings that we land that we can
19:5819 minutes, 58 secondsput our own churches up, we need to hold have a legal entity that can legally own that land.” And so one of the reasons for incorporation was that we’d have
20:0720 minutes, 7 secondsconferences that are neutral holders of title that do not blackmail local congregations. That was one of the rationale for having conferences in the
20:1520 minutes, 15 secondsfirst place. Another rationale for having conferences was that um when when circuit riders went around let’s say Michigan or Indiana or Wisconsin people
20:2420 minutes, 24 secondsneeded to know is this a genuine Adventist preacher and so you needed a central location that could give letters of credentials letters of authority or
20:3120 minutes, 31 secondswe call them credentials today so that if a preacher rolled up into town you say show me your credentials they would show you their credentials and then we’d
20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsknow that this was a person authorized and approved by a certain conference and so there were some practical reasons why we had conferences back in the early 1860s.
20:4920 minutes, 49 secondsBut now we find that whereas where whereas we originally started conferences to us to to stop wealthy members essentially blackmailing and
20:5620 minutes, 56 secondscoercing local congregations, now we find at least where I come from that the conference is quite happy to coers and blackmail the congregation to do what
21:0421 minutes, 4 secondsthey want or we won’t get the insurance for your property and it can never open.
21:1121 minutes, 11 secondsAnd this entropy in the member the relationship between members and conferences is forcing us to ask hard questions such as what actually is the church.
21:2121 minutes, 21 secondsIs the church the structure?
21:2421 minutes, 24 secondsIs the church the conference, the union, the division, the general conference? Or is the church those disciples of Jesus who love God and keep his commandments as we define in our fundamental beliefs?
21:3521 minutes, 35 secondsLet me put it this way. If I let’s say I use Michigan as an example. If the government of Michigan were to withdraw the legal registration of the SDA
21:4421 minutes, 44 secondsconference in Michigan, would the SDA church cease to exist in Michigan in that moment? No. Because the body of Christ would still exist.
21:5221 minutes, 52 secondsThe members would still be there, the elders, the Sabbath school teachers, the deacons, the deaconesses, it would the people would still be there. And so what
22:0022 minutesyou realize is that the legal infrastructure is a tool in the hands of the body of Christ. But we should never confuse the tool for the body of Christ itself.
22:1222 minutes, 12 secondsWhat is the result of this entropy and the relationship between members and conferences?
22:1822 minutes, 18 secondsWe’re seeing discouragement, disillusionment, and disengagement as members disengaged from tyrannical conference leaders. There is a silent
22:2622 minutes, 26 secondsexodus taking place in our division as members move financially and emotionally away from conference leaders. members
22:3322 minutes, 33 secondsare sitting in conferenceowned buildings from Sabbath to Sabbath, but the loyalty to the system has gone and they’re investing their time, their
22:4122 minutes, 41 secondstalents, their energy in independent ministries that uphold liberty of conscience. And our response today to
22:4822 minutes, 48 secondsthis ecclesiastical absolutism that’s rising in our division. Fourth manuscript release puts it this way.
22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsRead the spirit of prophecy says, “No man’s intelligence is to become a controlling power. such a controlling power that one man will have kingly
23:0423 minutes, 4 secondsauthority in Battle Creek or any other place. In no line of work is any one man to have power to turn the wheel. God forbids.
23:1323 minutes, 13 secondsWe are not to have kingly authority in the Adventist work. Why? Because all gifts are equal in the eyes of God.
23:2123 minutes, 21 secondsAnd when you read in in in um Romans chapter 12, you [snorts] read how the spiritual gifts are given um the the the
23:2823 minutes, 28 secondsbehavior that is that is asked of those with the gift of leadership is conscientiousness.
23:3523 minutes, 35 secondsAnd I used to read that passage as a kid like what is it talking about here? Like leadership is nice. You get to be on committees and you make decisions. And then I realized as I grew up that if God
23:4423 minutes, 44 secondshas given you the lift gift of leadership, it means you’re ready 24/7 to respond to problems as and when they arrive. You can’t just clock off in a leadership position. You’re always on
23:5323 minutes, 53 secondscall when somebody has a crisis. And so leadership is an invitation to faithfulness in daily service rather than to accumulate power to yourself.
24:0224 minutes, 2 secondsThe third kind of entropy that we’re experiencing is between members and the general conference.
24:0824 minutes, 8 secondsYou see up there, we’ve just we’re just uh registered up in Canada as needed to the poll. That’s why I’m I’m sticking the Canada stuff up here because this
24:1624 minutes, 16 secondswill be seen by members in Canada. I want them to know these contact details up there as well.
24:2124 minutes, 21 secondsSo what is happening with the general conference and some of you have heard about this some of you are very familiar with this but back in 1985 the general conference leadership signed
24:3024 minutes, 30 secondsup um to be to have consultative uh NGO status with the United Nations known as ECOS economic uh and social coordination
24:4024 minutes, 40 secondsbody of the United Nations and in in order to have consultative NGO status you have to legally agree to support the
24:4824 minutes, 48 secondsspirit the goals and the objectives of the United Nations.
24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsAnd most people have no idea what the objectives of the United Nations are.
24:5924 minutes, 59 secondsBut in so doing, our leaders traded away our spiritual birthright, which is liberty of conscience.
25:0725 minutes, 7 secondsTwice in the last 50 years, we have issued official statements from our general conference affirming that we support the universal
25:1525 minutes, 15 secondsdeclaration of human rights. And people say, well, that’s a good thing, is it not? we support universal human rights.
25:2225 minutes, 22 secondsWell, yes and no. Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights um says that everybody has the right to choose their religion, to change their
25:3025 minutes, 30 secondsreligion, to have a religion or not to have a religion, and to practice their religion. So, it sounds like a great article, Article 18 of the Universal
25:3825 minutes, 38 secondsDeclaration of Human Rights. The problem is is that article 29 says these are not human rights at all. This is what the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
25:4625 minutes, 46 secondsis. This is the some of the last two articles. It says there in the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone
25:5425 minutes, 54 secondsshall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights
26:0326 minutes, 3 secondsand freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order, and the general welfare in a democratic society.
26:1426 minutes, 14 secondsNow, that’s a long sentence.
26:1726 minutes, 17 secondsAnd it goes on to say paragraph 3, these rights and freedoms may no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. That
26:2626 minutes, 26 secondsphrase these rights that’s includes your liberty of conscience and right to have practice or
26:3326 minutes, 33 secondschange your religion. And you can practice your religion as long as it’s not contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations
26:4226 minutes, 42 secondsand the United Nations. is you have these rights in the exercise of your rights you are subject to what your
26:4926 minutes, 49 secondsgovernment considers the general welfare of a democratic society. So the government doesn’t think that your religion is in the general welfare of a
26:5626 minutes, 56 secondsdemocratic society then they have the right to take it away and when we officially support this
27:0327 minutes, 3 secondsdocument in two official statements what we’re saying is you can have liberty of conscience as an Adventist and Adventist church only in so far as Dr. Fouchy
27:1227 minutes, 12 secondsthinks it’s in the interests of a general general interest of society or only in so far as uh the federal government believes it’s in the
27:2127 minutes, 21 secondsinterests of society. What they’re saying is you don’t actually have liberty of conscience. What you have is temporary permission from government to
27:2827 minutes, 28 secondsdo what what they think is good for society today.
27:3227 minutes, 32 secondsSo when you become a 7th day Adventist, you’re actually because of this statement here, you’re saying my freedom, liberty of conscience, my
27:3927 minutes, 39 secondsreligious liberty, this is all basically um it’s a temporary provision. It’s a temporary allowance that the that I’m allowing the G the the United Nations to
27:4827 minutes, 48 secondsremove at any moment in time. Our liberty of conscience was sold down the river. Our birthright was sold as Esau
27:5527 minutes, 55 secondssold his birthright to Jacob when we signed up for the United Nations and the UN Declaration on Human Rights.
28:0128 minutes, 1 secondIn plain English, the General Conference has publicly declared that we are only allowed to exercise our God-given liberty of conscience subject to the
28:1028 minutes, 10 secondsdictates of the morally corrupt UN and the papacy which sits on the Security Council, which is Antichrist.
28:1828 minutes, 18 secondsWith the October 2021 reaffirmation statement that came in in the pandemic, the GC leaders told all Adventists worldwide that their deeply held
28:2628 minutes, 26 secondsprayerful convictions of the Holy Spirit upon their consciences did not provide a legitimate p basis to object to becoming a genetically modified Adventist.
28:3728 minutes, 37 secondsThe GC leaders were asserting the authority to override the convictions of the Holy Spirit upon the convictions and consciences of members. And such a claim
28:4628 minutes, 46 secondsof one man to override the convictions of the Holy Spirit on another man has no basis in scripture or the spirit of prophecy. It is antithetically opposed
28:5428 minutes, 54 secondsto being created in the image of God and God speaks to us each one of us through our consciences. Great controversy puts it this way. The doctrine that God has
29:0329 minutes, 3 secondscommitted to the church and she’s talking about to the Catholic Church here. The doctrine that God has committed to the church, the right to control the conscience and to define and
29:1229 minutes, 12 secondspunish heresy is one of the most deeply rooted of Adventist errors. Sorry, papal errors.
29:2329 minutes, 23 secondsIt is what it is, brothers and sisters.
29:2729 minutes, 27 secondsSo when I said we enter the pandemic as Protestants and left it with a papal spirit, it’s absolutely true.
29:3429 minutes, 34 secondsI may be condemned for saying it, but if you don’t like what I’m saying, then change the facts and take the statements away. There was an appeal to Yavin’s
29:4229 minutes, 42 secondsnobility preached in January 22. Um, that sermon changed my life. And after that sermon, I went home and went down with Omicron, the omocrron variants of
29:5029 minutes, 50 secondsCOVID. My wife said to me, she says, “Carin,” she says, “After preaching someone like that, you better not die of COVID.” So, I didn’t die of COVID. I I
29:5929 minutes, 59 secondstook um a lot of doses of ivormectin that night and the next day I was about 24 hours I was back on my feet again and writers reign as we say in England.
30:0930 minutes, 9 secondsBut after preaching that sermon and appeal to nobility which demonstrated that the general conference had exceeded its authority in issuing the reformation
30:1630 minutes, 16 secondsstatement. The GC issued a statement on the internet affirming that adcom has the legal right to issue those
30:2430 minutes, 24 secondsstatements and most Adventists never saw that statement.
30:2830 minutes, 28 secondsThis was the statement. It’s a very catchy title, isn’t it?
30:3330 minutes, 33 secondsUm, concerns regarding COVID 19, church governments, and liberty of conscience.
30:3930 minutes, 39 secondsIt barely made a ripple in the Adventist world because it was on Advent News Network. Most people never saw this statement, but you can look at the website. It’s still there to this day.
30:4830 minutes, 48 secondsThis came from the uh you as you read it for yourself, it’s clearly written by attorneys. So the the office of general legal counsel at the general conference
30:5530 minutes, 55 secondsthey issued this statement and argued that the the um the the adcom under section 4.1 power to act um this is this
31:0531 minutes, 5 secondsis the clause that gives the adcom the right to override the conscience of members worldwide. It says administrative issues as they arise. So
31:1331 minutes, 13 secondsADCOM can respond to administrative issues as they arise and give general counsel to world church entities as requested.
31:2231 minutes, 22 secondsNow, you may look at that and you say, “Does that give them the right to override my conscience?” And according to the GC, yes, it does.
31:2931 minutes, 29 secondsAnd that’s clearly that must be a lawyer that put that together. Yes.
31:3531 minutes, 35 secondsBut that’s the clause they claim. It’s in black and white. You can look it out for yourself. They ask, “Did the GC adcom exceed it authority?” They say, “No, we have this section 4.1 general
31:4431 minutes, 44 secondsadministrative actions power to act. The the general conference act adcom has a can respond to administrative issues as
31:5131 minutes, 51 secondsthey arise and give general counsel to world church entities as requested.
31:5731 minutes, 57 secondsAnd you say, well, that wasn’t in the 28 fundamental beliefs. No, it wasn’t. And it wasn’t in your baptismal vows either.
32:0332 minutes, 3 secondsSo why does this phrase here, despite what the GC lawyers say, why does this
32:1032 minutes, 10 secondsphrase not give the general conference the right to override your liberty of conscience? There are at least four
32:1632 minutes, 16 secondsreasons. The first is this. Vaccination mandates imposed by private employers in
32:2532 minutes, 25 secondscountries worldwide are not an internal administrative issue for the general conference.
32:3132 minutes, 31 secondsThe general conference can respond to administrative issues. That’s that’s within the boundaries of their jurisdiction.
32:3932 minutes, 39 secondsSo when you establish the Upper Columbia Conference here and it’s a legal entity, what jurisdiction? What’s the area of jurisdiction of the upper Columbia
32:4732 minutes, 47 secondsconference? So if this is the legal boundary of the upper Columbia conference, we return tithes and offerings here and the executive committee has jurisdiction over the the
32:5532 minutes, 55 secondstithes, the offerings, the employees and the institutions and buildings. That’s where it has jurisdiction. But the Upper
33:0233 minutes, 2 secondsColumbia Conference Executive Committee cannot vote on where you live, who you marry, what you eat, or what job you have. Has no jurisdiction over that.
33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsWould you agree with me? So there are boundaries to jurisdiction and the general conference has adcom has jurisdiction over administrative issues
33:1833 minutes, 18 secondsthat is within the church. They don’t have administration jurisdiction over administrative issues within federal government or within Ford Motors Corporation or within your home. So when
33:2733 minutes, 27 secondsthey use this clause to say that they can they can issue the reaffirmation statement the first response is vaccination mandates from private
33:3533 minutes, 35 secondsemployers worldwide are not internal administrative issues for the general conference. Therefore, you cannot use this clause here to as the basis, legal
33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsbasis for you to issue the reaffirmation statement. The second reason is is that GC administrators have no jurisdiction over private sector employment relations
33:5333 minutes, 53 secondsbetween employers and SDA employees worldwide. If you’re employed by Ford Motor Corporation or FedEx or whoever it may be, um the GC administrators, they
34:0134 minutes, 1 secondhave no jurisdiction over what happens in that relationship. And so therefore you cannot claim that they can use this
34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsclause as they have and they do this this cl this statement is still in the public. This is the still the rationale they use. Uh they cannot use this
34:1734 minutes, 17 secondsbecause GC administrators have no jurisdiction over private sector employers and their relations with their employees. The third reason why they’ve
34:2634 minutes, 26 secondsexceeded their authority is that the reaffirmation statement was not issued internally via internal denominational channels as council to world church
34:3534 minutes, 35 secondsentities. Now the phrase world church entities this is this is administrative jargon and an entity in in Adventist
34:4334 minutes, 43 secondsadministrative speak um every year the general conference produces what’s known as the yearbook and the yearbook lists
34:5034 minutes, 50 secondsall the divisions and then all the conferences unions and all the conferences and all the churches and all all the properties and all the
34:5834 minutes, 58 secondspublishing houses and all the schools and all the clinics and whatever whatever institution the church owns is in the yearbook. book. So, Upper
35:0635 minutes, 6 secondsColumbia Conference is in the yearbook, but FedEx is not because it’s not controlled by the church. You following me? And a world church entity and in our
35:1435 minutes, 14 secondsadministrative speak in the Adventist church, if you are a world church entity, that means you must be within the yearbook. You following this? But
35:2235 minutes, 22 secondsprivate sector employers are not within the yearbook. They’re not world church entities. So, the the adcom is allowed
35:2835 minutes, 28 secondsto respond, give counsel to world church entities. So they can give council to upper Columbia conference but they can’t give council to this high school.
35:3935 minutes, 39 secondsOkay? Because that’s not within the yearbook. The problem is that if they wanted to give counsel just to world church entities, they would have used
35:4735 minutes, 47 secondsinternal communications channels, email mostly these days. What they did was they posted it on the website of the
35:5535 minutes, 55 secondsgeneral conference so that every government worldwide and every health authority and every employer worldwide could see it.
36:0436 minutes, 4 secondsAnd you say, well, did employers act upon it? I have a close friend who’s uh just retired from the military. He was 20 years a flight surgeon in the Navy.
36:1536 minutes, 15 secondsHe was in the Pentagon in uh October, November 21. and he was in the room when the Pentagon downloaded all of the
36:2236 minutes, 22 secondsofficial vaccination statements from all the Protestant denominations and they said there is a general conference from the Adventists they thought it was a general like a military rank there is a
36:3136 minutes, 31 secondsgeneral conference who’s issued a statement from behalf of Adventists and based on that statement the um the every religious waiver request from every
36:3936 minutes, 39 secondsAdventist service member was presumptively denied in the Pentagon in October 21.
36:4536 minutes, 45 secondsThat’s how that statement was used. So the question is, did the adcom have the rights to issue a statement that went to every government health authority
36:5336 minutes, 53 secondsemployee worldwide? Yes or no? No. They could only res give council to world church entities within the yearbook, but
37:0137 minutes, 1 secondthe federal government is not within the yearbook as far as we’re aware. So such a distribution online to every employer
37:0837 minutes, 8 secondsworldwide goes far beyond the scope of advent of adcom’s role to give council just to world church entities. You
37:1537 minutes, 15 secondsfollowing the logic on this? What I’m demonstrating is they’ve exceeded their authority. That’s known as corporate negligence. If they admit to this, they’d be subject to litigation. That’s
37:2337 minutes, 23 secondswhy nobody wants to talk about this in our church. And the fourth reason why they’ve gone beyond their scope of authority is ADCOM has never been given
37:3137 minutes, 31 secondsgeneral author any authority to give general counsel to non-Sta employers or governments worldwide. So, ADCOM cannot
37:3837 minutes, 38 secondsissue count uh counsel to private sector employees. They can only give it to world church entities and they can only deal with internal administrative
37:4637 minutes, 46 secondsissues. So along those four dimensions, it is clear that the adcom has exceeded its authority under that particular
37:5437 minutes, 54 secondsclause and that is the clause that the general conference claims gives them the right to issue the reaffirmation statement.
38:0338 minutes, 3 secondsThis was an act of corporate negligence that caused immense harm to members worldwide. And this is the problem.
38:1138 minutes, 11 secondsIf they issued the reaffirmation statement and then realized, “Oh, we’ve messed up here,” that’s one thing. What the
38:1938 minutes, 19 secondsgeneral conference has done and said, “We issued the reaffirmation statement and then we issue this other press release at the end of January 22 saying
38:2738 minutes, 27 secondswe have the right to do this.” So, we have the we issue a statement that says we can override your conscience. And then when they’re
38:3538 minutes, 35 secondschallenged in public by a sermon that I gave, the GC issues another statement on Advent News Network saying, “Oh, we have the right to do this.” So not only have
38:4338 minutes, 43 secondswe created a precedent, we’ve created a legal justification in the eyes of the GC. What does that mean? Means this is now baked into the system and the next
38:5038 minutes, 50 secondstime similar mandates come along, we can expect the same response from the GC, which is to throw the members under the bus. The reaffirmation statement was no
38:5838 minutes, 58 secondsaccident. It was deliberate. It was a power play for the general conference to assert control over the bodies and consciences of all Adventists worldwide.
39:0739 minutes, 7 secondsAnd what does the spirit of prophecy have to say about this? We read this in great controversy 596. It says, “Christ
39:1339 minutes, 13 secondsforesaw that the undue assumption of authority indulged by the scribes and Pharisees would not cease with the dispersion of the Jews.
39:2339 minutes, 23 secondsHe had a prophetic view of the work of exalting human authority to rule the conscience which has been so terribly a cursed to the church in all the ages.
39:3339 minutes, 33 secondsAnd his fearful denunciations of the scribes and Pharisees and his warnings to the people not to follow these blind leaders that is those who presume to
39:4339 minutes, 43 secondsexalt human authority over human conscience. Those are blind leaders according to this definition here. His warnings not to follow those blind
39:5039 minutes, 50 secondsleaders were placed on record as an admonition to future generations. Let me put it in plain English. What sister White is saying here is that any leaders
39:5839 minutes, 58 secondswho presume to exalt human authority to rule over the conscience are blind leaders and we are not to follow those leaders today in the church.
40:0840 minutes, 8 secondsThat’s the implication of what she’s saying. We are not to follow the GC or conferences today that support the mandate statements.
40:1640 minutes, 16 secondsAnd this is when she says this is a denunciation his fearful denunciations of the scribes and Pharisees because they presume to
40:2440 minutes, 24 secondsexalt human authority to rule over the conscience. Then if you were to apply that today is it is that Christ gives a fearful denunciation to the GC officers
40:3340 minutes, 33 secondstoday who presume to exalt human authority over individual conscience.
40:4040 minutes, 40 secondsThese are profound words.
40:4240 minutes, 42 secondsWe are dealing with an existential problem in our worldwide body.
40:4740 minutes, 47 secondsThe fourth kind of entropy is between administrators and ideology.
40:5440 minutes, 54 secondsWhat are you talking about here, Pastor Vine? Well, in the North American division, we are witnessing the rapid advance of a progressive worldview that
41:0341 minutes, 3 secondsis antithetically opposed to the word of God as a summary statement. And you may say, “Oh, Pastor Vine, you’re exaggerating
41:1141 minutes, 11 secondsthis.” this. No, I’m not exaggerating this. We are seeing the rise of a post-biblical ideology that is rooted in
41:1941 minutes, 19 secondscultural Marxism that has taken root among our educators and our administrators.
41:2541 minutes, 25 secondsAnd that cultural Marxism is rooted in the writings of KL March KL Marx who was a Satanist which means we are seeing the spirit of
41:3441 minutes, 34 secondsSatan take over our administrators and our educators. And if that sounds harsh then consider the evidence.
41:4141 minutes, 41 secondsSeptember 2025, the Central States Conference, which is a regional conference, issued a statement in response to Charlie Kirk’s death. There
41:4941 minutes, 49 secondsit is for you on the screen there. And um I understand that Charlie Kirk was a divisive figure to many people,
41:5741 minutes, 57 secondsbut I don’t want anybody to be killed for espousing their views in public.
42:0342 minutes, 3 secondsWe should not celebrate the murder of anybody because God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance and have eternal life.
42:1242 minutes, 12 secondsSo this statement from the central states conference included the following phrase. It says the statement is also
42:1842 minutes, 18 secondsspiritual because Paul emphatically says do not be deceived. God is not mocked for what whatsoever a man shall shall show that shall he reap.
42:3042 minutes, 30 secondsNow, in quoting Galatians 6 and:e 7, the Central States Conference was strongly implying that the murder of Charlie Kirk was an act of divine judgment.
42:4142 minutes, 41 secondsDo not be deceived. God is not mocked.
42:4342 minutes, 43 secondsIf you’re using that phrase in relation to the murder of a public figure, you’re saying that he deserved it and it was God’s will that he be murdered.
42:5242 minutes, 52 secondsThis is one of our conferences that says this.
42:5642 minutes, 56 secondsWe go on. Let’s just move through the month, shall we? Just so far this year, January 10 and January the 17th, you
43:0543 minutes, 5 secondshave two Sabbaths at Lom Minda School of Religion, which is a institution owned by the General Conference. They hosted
43:1343 minutes, 13 secondsum the LGBTQ week. They held a movie on January the 17th, 2026 in Centennial Complex called Mama Bears. It’s a
43:2243 minutes, 22 secondsdocumentary that provides advocacy for parents for LGBTQ children. And following the p the film, there was a panel discussion encouraging LGBTQ
43:3143 minutes, 31 secondsadvocacy and the normalization of the LGBTQ lifestyle in the Adventist church. This was happening at Lominda.
43:4043 minutes, 40 secondsAnd in case you are unaware of it, on the board of Linda is the general conference president, secretary, treasurer, and vice president Tom Lemon.
43:4843 minutes, 48 secondsAll of whom are paid from the tithes that we return here in Washington state.
43:5343 minutes, 53 secondsJanuary this year, the NE has a message magazine. I didn’t know this, but it exists. It’s called the message magazine. There’s the website there.
44:0344 minutes, 3 secondsIt’s actually um an encyclopedia of how to be a so a Marxist social justice warrior. It is filled with progressive
44:1044 minutes, 10 secondslanguage. And uh this article encouraged our young people to become cultural Marxist social activists. And so this is
44:1844 minutes, 18 secondsan article about the moray mandate, conscience over compliance. It’s basically saying you have to rise up and rebel against ICE and deportation of illegal aliens.
44:2944 minutes, 29 secondsThis is uh what the what the the paragraph says. Um so I don’t have it down here, but uh anyway, you can see it for yourself.
44:3944 minutes, 39 secondsThere’s the author there, Message Magazine, January 26. That article is paid by somebody is written by somebody
44:4644 minutes, 46 secondswho’s repaid from the tithe and is paid by the North American Division basically encouraging our young people to become
44:5344 minutes, 53 secondsum social justice warriors with a cultural Marxist worldview.
44:5844 minutes, 58 secondsFebruary this year, the Pacific Union Recorder published an article entitled Honoring God through Science and Scripture. The thesis of which was that
45:0745 minutes, 7 secondsum Darwinism actually honors God and should never be opposed.
45:1145 minutes, 11 secondsNow admittedly, the Pacific Union did retract that article a few weeks later emphasizing that the article did not reflect their views, but the fact is
45:2045 minutes, 20 secondsthey published the article in favor of theistic evolution. And once you accept theistic evolution, you have denied the entire plan of salvation. And why is
45:2945 minutes, 29 secondsthat? Because if you believe there are cycles of life and death and life and death and life and death for millions of years before Adam and Eve evolve and come into existence, that means that
45:3845 minutes, 38 secondsthere was life and death and life and death and life and death before the fall in the Garden of Eden.
45:4445 minutes, 44 secondsAnd the Bible says that the wages of sin is death. But if you accept that there was death long before the fall and the wages of sin is not death and if the
45:5245 minutes, 52 secondswages of sin is not death, then you don’t need a savior to save you from sin. That means you nullify the need for Jesus Christ, the Messiah of God. So at
45:5945 minutes, 59 secondsa stroke, you’ve done away with the need for the plan of salvation. So this was what happened in April this year. Um over there in the Pacific Human Report
46:0746 minutes, 7 secondsin Recorder, April 2026, Spectrum published an article entitled The Quiet Witness and Prodigious Career of
46:1546 minutes, 15 secondsPioneering Gay Adventist Pastor Lee Flynn.
46:1846 minutes, 18 secondsWhen he came out as gay 20 years ago, he was fired as a pastor. But for the last 20 years in a same-sex marriage, as they
46:2546 minutes, 25 secondscall it, uh since July 2000, he’s been a local church pastor at the um uh one of the church p churches in Southern
46:3346 minutes, 33 secondsCalifornia. I think it was Glendale Adventist Church. He’s portrayed in this article as a pioneer for gay rights within the Adventist church. And what is
46:4246 minutes, 42 secondsparticularly noteworthy is he was never banned from any Adventist pulpits. He was allowed to serve for 20 years in a same-sex marriage in an Adventist pulpit.
46:5346 minutes, 53 secondsMaybe some of this I don’t know whether you’re aware of all these things but this is what’s been happening June this year last year university hosts their
47:0047 minuteslavender graduation of the LGBT class of 2026 the graduates will celebrate quote resilience and resistance end quote
47:0947 minutes, 9 secondspresumably that means resistance to the word of God.
47:1347 minutes, 13 secondsUh here you have um a discussion at Lassier. This is a discussion of whiteness. Is the religion of whiteness
47:2047 minutes, 20 secondsa barrier to authentic Christian community? What they’re talking about is critical race theory. If you’re not familiar with critical race theory, it was uh developed by the first
47:2947 minutes, 29 secondsAfrican-American tenure law professor at Harvard called Derek Bell. And there are various aspects of critical race theory.
47:3647 minutes, 36 secondsOne of which divides the world into oppressors and oppressed, which is the cultural Marxist worldview. You have the concept of intersectionality.
47:4347 minutes, 43 secondsUm so that you’re oppressed along multiple panes of existence. So um if you are for instance black, female and gay and handicapped you’re you’re you’re
47:5347 minutes, 53 secondsdiscriminated against in four bases in society that’s what intersectionality is. But professor Derek Bell his unique contribution to critical race theory was
48:0148 minutes, 1 secondsomething called the interest convergence hypothesis. And the interest convergence hypothesis says this. I’m summarizing it here. He basically said,
48:1048 minutes, 10 seconds”White people are so intrinsically evil that even if a white person, such as a white liberal, does something to ostensibly help the plight of black people in America, that white person is
48:1848 minutes, 18 secondsnever actually acting to benefit black people in America, they’re acting to to perpetuate white supremacy and the subjugation of the black people. So by
48:2748 minutes, 27 secondsby interest convergence hypothesis that means the interests of a black community and interests of a white supremacist even if they’re a liberal the white
48:3448 minutes, 34 secondssupremacist is never acting in front in on behalf of the African-American brothers and sisters they are acting to perpetuate white supremacy as as as you
48:4348 minutes, 43 secondssaw it what this means is that white people are intrinsically and for forever will be evil and this is why you see the
48:5148 minutes, 51 secondslogic of segregation in college campuses these days because white people are intrinsically evil and can only do harm to black to black people. And to protect
49:0049 minutesblack students, you have to segregate them and protect them from the evil influence of white authors, white students, white professors. If this makes you feel uncomfortable, I’m just telling you the truth here. All right?
49:1149 minutes, 11 secondsThe logical conclusion of of this of this kind of ideology is not just segregation.
49:1849 minutes, 18 secondsIt’s the elimination of the problem race, which is genocide. That’s the logical conclusion. Lassiiera University
49:2549 minutes, 25 secondsis talking about the religion of whiteness. They are discussing the application of critical race theory in the Adventist church.
49:3249 minutes, 32 secondsAgain, this is this is a demonic ideology that only leads to social breakdown and hatred.
49:4049 minutes, 40 secondsHere you have Lassier June 6, the um Lavender graduation. They posted the pictures on Fulcrum.
49:4749 minutes, 47 secondsThis is the Adventist Chapel, the Adventist University of Lassier just two weeks ago. And uh here you have the
49:5549 minutes, 55 secondspresident uh Crystal Arthur celebrating with the graduates with the rainbow flag um there in the chapel there at Lassiier
50:0350 minutes, 3 secondsUniversity. A chapel paid for by the the offerings of faithful members over the years.
50:1050 minutes, 10 secondsUm then you have the celebration by the graduates. This lady is a female pastor
50:1750 minutes, 17 secondsat Lassier, part of the women’s ordination push. For those of those people who say that women’s ordination does not lead to
50:2550 minutes, 25 secondssame-sex ordination, samesex marriage, the evidence is right in front of us.
50:3150 minutes, 31 secondsJust a few weeks ago, Adventist um health the White Memorial Hospital, I’m sure Ellen White was delighted to know
50:3850 minutes, 38 secondsabout this, um celebrated Pride, Pride Month in June. The post says, “Adventist health. We believe that whole person
50:4550 minutes, 45 secondscare starts with honoring what makes you uniquely you. This Pride Month, we continue to care for our beautifully diverse community, inspiring health,
50:5350 minutes, 53 secondswholeness, and hope for all because we are made to love, grow, and experience life to the fullest.
51:0051 minutesAnd I’m not sure if Sister White were alive today, she would be making posts such as that.” Um, this is uh August uh October 2024.
51:1151 minutes, 11 secondsuh our previous GC president, Pastor Wilson. We don’t agree on everything, but I agree with him on this. He spoke at the annual council and he he
51:1951 minutes, 19 secondsbasically he he made a sermon and all the union presidents from around the world were there including North America and all the division presence and all
51:2751 minutes, 27 secondsthe officers and what he said is if you do if do if you do not uphold what the Bible teaches and he was referring to human sexuality
51:3551 minutes, 35 secondsand biblical marriage. That’s what he was referring to. But if you look at this on YouTube, it’s been deleted out so it doesn’t get banned by YouTube. But that’s what he was talking about. He
51:4351 minutes, 43 secondssaid, “If you cannot believe what the Bible teaches on these things, I’m asking you to resign.” And he did that in the annual council two years ago,
51:5151 minutes, 51 secondswhich tells you that even the GC president knows we have a problem because he’s calling the union presidents who don’t agree with what we teach from scripture. He’s calling them
52:0052 minutesto resign. Maybe you can play the clip there from the from the audio visual desk. you as a leader
52:0652 minutes, 6 secondscannot accept the word of God as it reads, I urge you to resign your position.
52:1852 minutes, 18 secondsAnd I would agree with him.
52:2252 minutes, 22 secondsWhat he’s saying is tithe should not go to unsanctified workers.
52:2752 minutes, 27 secondsThe tithe is holy and it should not support men and women who support that which God has declared to be an abomination. What does the spirit of prophecy say about these things? She
52:3652 minutes, 36 secondswrote this in 1893 in the review and herald. And I read this, it really struck me. She says, “Of those who boast of their light,” she’s speaking about
52:4452 minutes, 44 secondsAdventists, “and yet failed to walk in it. Christ says, “But I say to you, it shall be more tolerable for Ty and Siden
52:5152 minutes, 51 secondson the day of judgment than for you, and thou,” then she adds herself, seventh Adventists, who have had great light,
52:5852 minutes, 58 secondswhich are exalted into heaven in point of privilege, shall be brought down to where? Hell. For if the mighty works
53:0653 minutes, 6 secondswhich have been done in thee have been done in Sodom, it would have remained unto this day.
53:1153 minutes, 11 secondsAs I read the spirit of prophecy, it’s very clear that God will bring judgment upon those parts of the Adventist movement that are celebrating the works of Sodom and Gomorrah.
53:2253 minutes, 22 secondsLet’s be clear about this. Let’s call a spade a spade. It’s not pleasant to speak about this.
53:2853 minutes, 28 secondsThis will be on the internet. I’m sure this sermon will not be have many positive likes among some church leaders here in North America. But this is the
53:3653 minutes, 36 secondscouncil of the warning of the spirit of prophecy. This is the word of Christ to the Adventist church today. You’ve had great light.
53:4453 minutes, 44 secondsBut if you continue in the works of Sodom, you’ll go down to hell. It’s a sobering message, is it not?
53:5453 minutes, 54 secondsIt’s a sobering message. We are a house divided in North American division. We have two worldviews in our division. We have the Bible faithful Adventists.
54:0354 minutes, 3 secondsWe have the progressive Adventists. And they are mutually incompatible. We have nothing in common other than the name.
54:1054 minutes, 10 secondsAnd what has happened is that we have two worldviews on different planets, but we’re held together by a common financial system. And the progressives now control the financial mechanisms.
54:2054 minutes, 20 secondsAnd not only do they control it, but now they are now overtly weaponizing it against the Bible faithful Adventists.
54:2854 minutes, 28 secondsThis may be hard to hear, but I’m supposed to speak the truth from the pulpit.
54:3554 minutes, 35 secondsWe speak the truth because unless you speak the truth, you cannot have healing. Truth is a prerequisite for healing.
54:4254 minutes, 42 secondsAnd we want there to be healing for all parts of our church.
54:4654 minutes, 46 secondsNot just for our leaders, but we want our young people to know that we serve a God who can make you a new creation.
54:5454 minutes, 54 secondsWe are a house divider. When I became an Adventist, I naively assumed that our leaders actually believe our fun fundamental beliefs. Now I discover that
55:0255 minutes, 2 secondsmany in the North American division, our institutions and our unions, those who sit on these college boards, they give lip service to the fundamental beliefs
55:1155 minutes, 11 secondswhen claiming tithe while pushing progressive ideologies that are leading our young people to the pits of hell.
55:2055 minutes, 20 secondsSo what is the impact of this institutional entropy?
55:2655 minutes, 26 secondsWhat I see in our church today is that an authoritarian spirit that has no place in God’s kingdom has taken over our administrative elites.
55:3555 minutes, 35 secondsMembers worldwide, not just in North America, are suffering under a culture of increasing pastoral and administrative absolutism.
55:4355 minutes, 43 secondsOur administrators will accept no challenge to their absolute power over the members, their bodies, or their consciences.
55:5055 minutes, 50 secondsWhat I’ve seen is that the church manual is applied only selectively. always in favor of the conference when needed, but never to defend the members.
55:5955 minutes, 59 secondsIt is only through the seeking of the Holy Spirit can we reverse this corporate entropy and breathe life back into our corporate carcass.
56:0956 minutes, 9 secondsWe desperately need today to [clears throat] listen to the witness of the the fa the council of the faithful and true witness of Revelation 3:14
56:1756 minutes, 17 secondsor we will perish under God’s judgment in our Leodysianism. Leodysians are lost unless they repent.
56:2556 minutes, 25 secondsFor the last five or six years, there have been many requests for the red address of these grievances.
56:3256 minutes, 32 secondsPetitions are signed. They are sent to the general conference and just ignored.
56:3656 minutes, 36 secondsThey’re not even acknowledged. Preachers are banned. Bible faithful pastors in parts of our nation are being fired or
56:4356 minutes, 43 secondshave been fired or banned from preaching. There’s one in this room here, not me, who’s gone through that as well. GC delegates have been
56:5156 minutes, 51 secondsdeplatformed for fear they would raise awkward questions at GC sessions.
56:5656 minutes, 56 secondsCongregations who promote truth rather than the false narratives of the GC of co and wokeism are being crushed such as
57:0357 minutes, 3 secondsvillage. Faithful members are being demonized in denominational media. Those who were not vaccinated were compare work were compared unfavorably to
57:1257 minutes, 12 secondsjihadis who killed polio aid workers in Afghanistan in the review in 2022.
57:1857 minutes, 18 secondsPresent truth preachers are banned. They are smeared and they are vilified.
57:2257 minutes, 22 secondsSometimes they’re publicly banned. But generally there’s a can culture of there’s a culture of soft council culture where pastors are told if you
57:3157 minutes, 31 secondshave this preacher in your church then you will be banned or fired. So what do we need as a church? We need the baptism
57:3857 minutes, 38 secondsof the Holy Spirit. We need to heed the true counsel of the true and faithful witness of Revelation 3:14.
57:4757 minutes, 47 secondsThe church in the Leodysian era is lost unless she hears the voice of Jesus Christ and repents of the wickedness
57:5557 minutes, 55 secondsthat has led her to accumulate great material wealth but has left her spiritually impoverished.
58:0158 minutes, 1 secondWhat does reformation look like? I believe that what we need our general conference today and our leaders to do is these seven things. One is to heed
58:1058 minutes, 10 secondsthe council of the true and faithful witness of Revelation 3 and and dwell on what it means for us today. means for the GC to withdraw from its partnership
58:1858 minutes, 18 secondswith the UN which is the source of much of our present ill ill will ill ills fruit. We are in a union with the United
58:2658 minutes, 26 secondsNations and the antichrist. We cannot we cannot speak prophetically when we are subjugated to the antichrist for the
58:3458 minutes, 34 secondsreaffirmation statement that should be revoked and they should give the assurance to the members that such a statement will never be issued again in the Adventist
58:4358 minutes, 43 secondsworld. Our institutions need to publicly pledge that they will honor and uphold scriptural truths as encapsulated in our
58:5058 minutes, 50 secondsfundamental beliefs and reject woke ideologies in the classroom and in public events.
58:5758 minutes, 57 secondsWe need to cease the council culture against Bible faithful preachers. And our leaders need to repent of of their authoritarianism and learn what servant leadership looks like again.
59:0959 minutes, 9 secondsSo what do you do as members? We’ve petitioned, we’ve prayed, we’ve fasted, we’ve written letters, nobody ever responds, nobody listens, nobody cares.
59:2059 minutes, 20 secondsWhy is that? Because the leaders know that the members have no mechanism to drive change.
59:2659 minutes, 26 secondsWe make them complain, but if your conference doesn’t want to listen, there’s not a lot any not a lot anybody can do about it. And as I travel around
59:3459 minutes, 34 secondsthe world, I see that many Adventists are kind of steaming in frustration. And steam if it rises let’s say from your kitchen kettle it just dissipates into
59:4259 minutes, 42 secondsthe air. So steam on itself doesn’t do any good. But if you can channel that steam that that steam can turn a turbine that will generate electricity. So you
59:5159 minutes, 51 secondshave to find a mechanism that will channel that steam to turn the turbine to generate electricity and the electricity represents the force that
59:5859 minutes, 58 secondscan bring these attention matters to the attention of our leaders in a way that they understand in a way that they are likely to respond to. Which brings me to
1:00:061 hour, 6 secondsthis question here. what can we do as members? And I’m going to speak about tithe.
1:00:161 hour, 16 secondsI spoke about tithe for 15 seconds in 2024 and my life fell apart.
1:00:221 hour, 22 secondsSo, we’re going to get it 15 minutes now and see what happens.
1:00:281 hour, 28 secondsFirstly, [clears throat] some biblical principles. Tithe belongs to the Lord.
1:00:331 hour, 33 secondsIt does not belong to administrators or to any conference. No conference has a divine right to tithe. Abraham returned tithe to MelkiseDC, a type of Christ.
1:00:431 hour, 43 secondsAnd we returned tithe to Jesus Christ.
1:00:461 hour, 46 secondsHe is the head of the church. We have a we have a moral obligation to return tithe to Jesus Christ as a recognition
1:00:541 hour, 54 secondsthat we are created beings that all good blessings in our life are a gift from our heavenly father. So I believe and
1:01:011 hour, 1 minute, 1 secondI’ve practiced all my life the the the practice of tithing. My wife and I have t tithed our entire life. We tithe on
1:01:081 hour, 1 minute, 8 secondsgross. For many years as married, maybe the first uh I don’t know 15 years of marriage raising our kids, we had one income. And you know, one income means
1:01:171 hour, 1 minute, 17 secondsthat um you know you when you you don’t you have one car, it’s an old car. You don’t eat out. Your kids dress in dress
1:01:251 hour, 1 minute, 25 secondsme downs. My wife has has shopped most of our married life in Goodwill. And uh whenever we go to somewhere that’s
1:01:331 hour, 1 minute, 33 secondsreally nice, we go to Goodwill because you get nice clothes in nice areas with Goodwill. All right? So, we’ve learned these things. The shoes I wear, the jackets I wear, mostly from Goodwill.
1:01:421 hour, 1 minute, 42 secondsThat’s how we get by. All right? But I’ll tell you this, in 26 years of marriage, we have never gone into debt.
1:01:491 hour, 1 minute, 49 secondsDo you know how what a blessing it is to never go into debt and not have medical bills and have healthy bodies and healthy children? This is a blessing
1:01:571 hour, 1 minute, 57 secondsfrom the Lord. I can say today that when you are faithful in returning your tithe to the Lord, the storehouse of heaven is poured out upon you. And it’s an
1:02:041 hour, 2 minutes, 4 secondsabsolute blessing to live with the assurance of God’s blessing. But each one of us has three choices to make. The first is this.
1:02:141 hour, 2 minutes, 14 secondsYou can return your your tithe in the form of dollars to the regular lines as we read in the spirit of prophecy as your local conference.
1:02:241 hour, 2 minutes, 24 secondsThat’s what Michigan would say. They say you can only return to your local conference. But I believe you can return your tithe to any conference that is faithful to scripture.
1:02:331 hour, 2 minutes, 33 secondsThat’s one option we have.
1:02:371 hour, 2 minutes, 37 secondsThe second option is to recognize in the Bible, nobody ever returned tithe as money. There’s not a single instance of tither as money. It was always food.
1:02:471 hour, 2 minutes, 47 secondsThere is not a single case in the Bible of tithe being paid as money. There is only one verse in the Bible in Deuteronomy that talks about tithe and money. And it says, “If you live far
1:02:551 hour, 2 minutes, 55 secondsaway from the Lord, from the place that Lord shall designate, and you cannot bring your agricultural produce to the tabernacle, then you’re to sell the produce and turn it into money, and
1:03:031 hour, 3 minutes, 3 secondsyou’re to bring the money to the place that the Lord shall designate, which is the tabernacle.” And it doesn’t say give the money. It says buy food and feast on that food.
1:03:121 hour, 3 minutes, 12 secondsThere is not a single instance in the Bible of tithes being linked to money.
1:03:171 hour, 3 minutes, 17 secondsIf you’re going to return a bi a faithful tide that is biblical, then we should be ordering rice and beans on Walmart and drop shipping it to the Upper Colombia conference.
1:03:281 hour, 3 minutes, 28 secondsNow, I ran this idea by two conference presidents. I won’t mention which conference presents, but one’s in America and one’s in Europe. These are
1:03:371 hour, 3 minutes, 37 secondssolid, faithful Bible conference presidents. and they both burst into rockus laughter and said, “Don’t you dare talk about that.”
1:03:461 hour, 3 minutes, 46 secondsBut if you are going to return a biblical tithe, ordering, you know, £200 of beans and shipping it to the conference is a faithful tithe.
1:03:561 hour, 3 minutes, 56 secondsAnd in America, if you give an inkind contribution, it’s still taxdeductible.
1:04:031 hour, 4 minutes, 3 secondsAll you need is a letter from the conference or your local church that says he gave 200 pound of beans and then you attach that letter from the church a
1:04:101 hour, 4 minutes, 10 secondsreceipt of an inkind contribution to the bill and that’s taxdeductible same as your tax deductible receipt is for money. You’re all aware of that. I hope I’m serious. This is deadly serious.
1:04:221 hour, 4 minutes, 22 secondsWe’re not This is no laughing matter.
1:04:241 hour, 4 minutes, 24 secondsIt’s still taxdeductible to give rice, beans, canned vegetable, and olive oil to the conference.
1:04:321 hour, 4 minutes, 32 secondsNow, I’m getting ahead of myself here.
1:04:351 hour, 4 minutes, 35 secondsDoes God hold me responsible for the apostasies of those who use the financial tithe that I return? The answer is yes.
1:04:431 hour, 4 minutes, 43 secondsThis phrase appears twice in the spirit of prophecy. There are fearful woes for those who preach the truth but are not
1:04:501 hour, 4 minutes, 50 secondssanctified by it. And also for those who consent to receive and maintain the unsanctified to minister to them in word
1:04:581 hour, 4 minutes, 58 secondsand doctrine. So if you consent to receive or to maintain unsanctified gospel workers, God has reserved for you fearful woes.
1:05:111 hour, 5 minutes, 11 secondsIt’s not a case of hand it over and just trust. It’s not a case of you just hand it over and that that’s your part done.
1:05:181 hour, 5 minutes, 18 secondsClearly in the spirit of prophecy, we don’t have time to do this today, but pastor Al Fletcher has got a superb collection of of three or four pages in spirit of prophecy on this. We are to
1:05:261 hour, 5 minutes, 26 secondsprayerfully consider to whom we return our tithe, where we send our tithe, and we are not to return tithe to institutions or conferences that uphold or maintain unsanctified workers.
1:05:381 hour, 5 minutes, 38 secondsThere are fearful woes for you today if you return tithes to a conference system in the NAD that’s promoting all this moral garbage.
1:05:481 hour, 5 minutes, 48 secondsFriendship with this world is enmity with God. James 4:4.
1:05:541 hour, 5 minutes, 54 secondsIf you support and maintain that which God has expressly called an abomination, that makes you an enemy of God.
1:06:021 hour, 6 minutes, 2 secondsSo do not blindly return tithe to a system that is upholding abominations in front of our faces on a monthly basis
1:06:091 hour, 6 minutes, 9 secondsand is essentially spitting in the faces of Bible faithful Adventists.
1:06:171 hour, 6 minutes, 17 secondsI should calm down, shouldn’t I?
1:06:221 hour, 6 minutes, 22 secondsAll right. So the second option is return tithe to your local conference or any conference that’s faithful to
1:06:291 hour, 6 minutes, 29 secondsscripture as in Bible times in the form of food.
1:06:331 hour, 6 minutes, 33 secondsGo to Amazon, you know, Walmart, go to some Whole Foods and drop ship your beans to the conference office.
1:06:431 hour, 6 minutes, 43 secondsNow the advantage of this is has price has the price of food gone up in the last 5 years.
1:06:491 hour, 6 minutes, 49 secondsAll right. So if you give the conf conference dollars, it’s losing 5% of value a year in the bank. If you give them the price of beans, they’re getting
1:06:561 hour, 6 minutes, 56 secondsan asset that’s appreciating in value 5% every year. You’re doing them a favor. You’re inflationproofing the tithe.
1:07:051 hour, 7 minutes, 5 secondsSo in the United States, if you give an inkind donation of food to your local church, you can ask your treasurer to
1:07:131 hour, 7 minutes, 13 secondsgive you a letter confirming you paid over 100 pounds of beans or whatever it is. and you attach that letter to the receipt you paid for the food. You can
1:07:211 hour, 7 minutes, 21 secondsinclude that as a taxdeductible receipt in your annual tax return. It’s a great idea.
1:07:301 hour, 7 minutes, 30 secondsIt’s called civil disobedience in a sanctified way. But I can guarantee you
1:07:371 hour, 7 minutes, 37 secondswith inflation running at 4% right now, if 5% of the members of this conference switch to this, the conference has a 10%
1:07:441 hour, 7 minutes, 44 secondseffective shortfall by year end in purchasing power. They’re going to take real careful note of what’s happening.
1:07:521 hour, 7 minutes, 52 secondsAnd you may say, well, my local conference isn’t involved. I’d say, oh yes, it is. Every conference is complicit because every conference president sits on the ND executive
1:08:001 hour, 8 minutescommittee and every conference president can speak up and they’re not speaking up and they can change the conf the union division administrators and they they
1:08:091 hour, 8 minutes, 9 secondscan change the union administrators who are allowing this moral garbage to flow through our institutions and our conference leaders are not stepping up
1:08:161 hour, 8 minutes, 16 secondsto the plate. Why? Because it takes courage to go against the cultural flow and they’re not doing it. They’d rather
1:08:231 hour, 8 minutes, 23 secondssit in silence and complain inside, but nobody wants to stand up and reject the wokeism because then you get isolated
1:08:311 hour, 8 minutes, 31 secondsand and and you become a moral or social leper within the structure and your career is finished in the church if you stand up against these godless
1:08:381 hour, 8 minutes, 38 secondsideologies. So our conference officers are not doing their jobs. Third option for you is this.
1:08:461 hour, 8 minutes, 46 secondsReturn tithe to a storehouse in the irregular lines to support a Bible faithful gospel worker.
1:08:531 hour, 8 minutes, 53 secondsThat is somebody who’s not a conference employee, but who is a faithful minister of the gospel. By minister, it could be a Bible worker. It could be a foreign
1:09:011 hour, 9 minutes, 1 secondevangelist. It could be a church planter. It could actually be your local church elders who labor in word and doctrine on a regular basis for your
1:09:091 hour, 9 minutes, 9 secondschurch. You could actually return tithes to your local church elders.
1:09:161 hour, 9 minutes, 16 secondsThis would be an independent Adventist ministry that’s faithful to scripture and contends for the faith that was given us. As we read in our scripture
1:09:231 hour, 9 minutes, 23 secondsreading Jude verse three, there’s an example of this in scripture. 1 2 Kings
1:09:301 hour, 9 minutes, 30 seconds4:42 says, “A man came from Ba Shales bringing food from the what?
1:09:361 hour, 9 minutes, 36 secondsFirst fruits to the man of God. This is Elisha. Did they bring the tithe? This is the first fruits. Do they bring it to the tabernacle?” No. They brought it to Elisha who was a prophet. He brought 20
1:09:451 hour, 9 minutes, 45 secondsloaves of barley and fresh ears of grain in his sack. And Elisha said, “Give it to the people and let them eat.
1:09:521 hour, 9 minutes, 52 secondsPart of the use of the tithe is to bless the poor.” But we never use the tithe to bless the poor ever. It’s only used to pay for
1:10:021 hour, 10 minutes, 2 secondsdenominational employees and their benefits. It’s never used to bless the poor. But here you have an example from
1:10:081 hour, 10 minutes, 8 secondsscripture of an independent ministry, Elisha, who wasn’t paid from the tabernacle. And this man brings him the
1:10:161 hour, 10 minutes, 16 secondsthe food from the first fruits, that’s his tithes, and Elisha accepted it. Have you ever realized that other than the book of Ezekiel, every book in the
1:10:241 hour, 10 minutes, 24 secondsBible’s written by an independent ministry?
1:10:271 hour, 10 minutes, 27 secondsYou should think about that. Nobody was a conference employee wrote any book of the Bible. They were all independent ministries.
1:10:361 hour, 10 minutes, 36 secondsevery single one of them. So you ask some questions about this.
1:10:411 hour, 10 minutes, 41 secondsShouldn’t all tithes be channeled through a single structure? The answer is not necessarily.
1:10:491 hour, 10 minutes, 49 secondsThe Spalding Megan collection page 441 says this. Do not worry less some mean shall go direct to those who are trying to do missionary work in the quiet and
1:10:561 hour, 10 minutes, 56 secondseffective way. And this is the key sentence. All the means is not to be handled by one agency or organization.
1:11:031 hour, 11 minutes, 3 secondsNow, Sister White uses the phrase the means multiple hundreds of times to refer to tithes and offerings. That’s her shorthand for TNO, tithes and
1:11:101 hour, 11 minutes, 10 secondsofferings. And when she says it is not to be handled by one agency or organization, she was referring here to the general conference in Battle Creek.
1:11:191 hour, 11 minutes, 19 secondsSo, what she’s saying is that um not all the tithes and offerings is to flow to through the denominational structure.
1:11:271 hour, 11 minutes, 27 secondsThen you ask the question, is my local conference the storehouse of scripture?
1:11:331 hour, 11 minutes, 33 secondsWell, your local conference, it is a storehouse, but it is not the storehouse. There are multiple
1:11:401 hour, 11 minutes, 40 secondsstorehouses. In North America, we have 60 plus conferences. That’s 60 plus storehouses. And what six unions, that’s
1:11:471 hour, 11 minutes, 47 secondsanother six storehouses. And we have the division. And so there are multiple storehouses just within the North American division. And this this
1:11:551 hour, 11 minutes, 55 secondsstatement by in 2023, and you can see it online. Do any of you get the Adventist Journey magazine? Some of you do.
1:12:031 hour, 12 minutes, 3 secondsYes.
1:12:031 hour, 12 minutes, 3 secondsYeah. This is like the journal for the North American Division. Well, Randy Robinson had just retired as the Ned Treasurer who’s retired and he retired a couple of months before he wrote this.
1:12:141 hour, 12 minutes, 14 secondsAnd in December 23, you can see it online, page four, this is what he wrote. He said, “The Adventist Church defines the storehouse within its own
1:12:231 hour, 12 minutes, 23 secondsstructure as the local conference.” Then listen to the next sentence. That definition is not a theological requirement.
1:12:301 hour, 12 minutes, 30 secondsWhat a stunning admission from the NE treasurer.
1:12:341 hour, 12 minutes, 34 secondsIt is not a theological requirements nor is the subsequent flow of tithe throughout the organization.
1:12:401 hour, 12 minutes, 40 secondsIt is a policy decision. Yes, he uses the word polity, not policy. It is a polity decision we have simply agreed upon collectively.
1:12:491 hour, 12 minutes, 49 secondsThis means that we looked for a way to finance our structure. We looked at tithing in the Old Testament and said that looks nice. We’ll adopt it for ourselves.
1:12:581 hour, 12 minutes, 58 secondsand we said the local conference will be the storehouse. But there is no theological basis for that determination. It’s simply a policy decision.
1:13:081 hour, 13 minutes, 8 secondsThere is no theological basis for Michigan Conference being the storehouse for all Michigan Adventists.
1:13:161 hour, 13 minutes, 16 secondsNow, this is something that probably they wish they hadn’t published, but it’s out there and it’s on the internet and you should download it while it’s still up there.
1:13:271 hour, 13 minutes, 27 secondsDoes our fundamental belief on stewardship teach that we must return tithes to our local conference? The answer actually is no. What the
1:13:341 hour, 13 minutes, 34 secondsfundamental belief? It has one sentence on tithe. In the the fundamental belief on stewardship, there’s only one sentence relating to tithe. And this is what it says. It says, “We acknowledge
1:13:431 hour, 13 minutes, 43 secondsGod’s ownership by faithful service to him and our faithful human beings and by returning tithe and giving offerings for
1:13:501 hour, 13 minutes, 50 secondsthe proclamation of his gospel and the support and growth of his church.” Now, does this say you are we believe from scripture that tithe must go to the
1:13:591 hour, 13 minutes, 59 secondslocal conference? Yes or no? No. We return tithes to whom according to this?
1:14:061 hour, 14 minutes, 6 secondsWe return tithes to to him in order to support the growth of what? His church.
1:14:111 hour, 14 minutes, 11 secondsAnd then you say that must mean the conference. No, because in our fundamental belief on the church, we have one sentence that defines the church. How do our fundamental beliefs
1:14:201 hour, 14 minutes, 20 secondsdefine the church? The church is the community of believers who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. There is no
1:14:271 hour, 14 minutes, 27 secondslegal institutional corporate definition of church anywhere in our fundamental beliefs. You look night and day, you won’t find them from 1 through 28. So
1:14:351 hour, 14 minutes, 35 secondswhen we support the growth of the of the church in the fundamental belief on stewardship, we’re supporting the growth of the community of believers who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
1:14:451 hour, 14 minutes, 45 secondsSo there is no mention of our of any legal administrative structure or any conference office in our fundamental beliefs. So you can’t be disciplined for
1:14:521 hour, 14 minutes, 52 secondssaying tithe doesn’t necessarily have to go to the conference because our fundamental beliefs don’t actually teach that
1:14:591 hour, 14 minutes, 59 secondsdon’t they don’t teach that can I be dis disciplined for not returning a financial tie to my local conference the
1:15:071 hour, 15 minutes, 7 secondsanswer is no the church manual which is voted by the world church uh gives the reasons why you can be disciplined
1:15:161 hour, 15 minutes, 16 secondsbut you are not allowed to be disciplined for not returning a tithe to your ical conference. It’s just not there.
1:15:251 hour, 15 minutes, 25 secondsNow, I wouldn’t I would encourage you all to return a faithful tithe to Jesus Christ, but you cannot be
1:15:321 hour, 15 minutes, 32 secondsdysfellowshipped or censured for not returning a tithe to your local conference.
1:15:391 hour, 15 minutes, 39 secondsDid Ellen White give us an example of appropriating tithe directly to gospel workers who are not denominational employees?
1:15:471 hour, 15 minutes, 47 secondsYes. That was laid out in what is known as the Watson letter. And if you’ve never read the Watson letter, you should read it. She says there, “I have myself
1:15:561 hour, 15 minutes, 56 secondsI have myself appropriated tithes the most needy cases brought to my notice.
1:16:021 hour, 16 minutes, 2 secondsI’ve been instructed to do this and as the money is not withheld from the Lord’s treasury, it is not a matter that should be commented upon.” There’s an interesting statement this.
1:16:111 hour, 16 minutes, 11 secondsWe could dwell all day on this one sentence, but um tithe withholding is where you do not return any tithe to the
1:16:181 hour, 16 minutes, 18 secondsLord. And we should not do that. We should return a faithful tithe to the Lord. Number one, tithe um tithe diversion is using tithe for the purpose
1:16:281 hour, 16 minutes, 28 secondsfor which God has not ordained tithe for which is for instance buying a laptop for your relatine class. That’s tithe diversion. That’s not allowed in
1:16:351 hour, 16 minutes, 35 secondsscripture. Tithe appropriation is what Sister White practiced is where you say there are there are gospel workers who are not in the denominational structure
1:16:441 hour, 16 minutes, 44 secondsbut they are faithful gospel workers and I can channel the tithe from myself to those faithful gospel workers without going through the the conference treasury and that’s acceptable to God.
1:16:531 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondsAnd she says by going straight from me to the gospel worker without going through the conference treasury. She says you’re not robbering the Lord’s treasury in the process.
1:17:031 hour, 17 minutes, 3 secondsSo you can give directly to a gospel worker or a faithful gospel ministry and sister white is your example in doing
1:17:101 hour, 17 minutes, 10 secondsthis. So the question is who should receive the tithe? Two answers we find in spirit of prophecy. The tithe should go to those who labor in word and doctrine be they men or women.
1:17:201 hour, 17 minutes, 20 secondsEvangelism 492 or welfare ministry page 277. The tithe is to be especially devoted to the support of those who are
1:17:291 hour, 17 minutes, 29 secondsbearing God’s message to the world. So that’s where tithe is to go. Those who proclaim the gospel should make their living from the gospel as the New
1:17:361 hour, 17 minutes, 36 secondsTestament says. Do you have permission to from God to appropriate your tithe directly to gospel workers? The answer
1:17:441 hour, 17 minutes, 44 secondsto that is yes. Sister White says in special instructions here, these are all online. You can read them for yourself.
1:17:511 hour, 17 minutes, 51 secondsShe says, “The Lord has made us individually his stewards. And God does not lay upon you the burden of asking the conference or any council of men,
1:17:581 hour, 17 minutes, 58 secondswhether you shall use your means, that is your tithes and offerings, as you see fits to advance the work of God.” And when you value when you add that to the
1:18:071 hour, 18 minutes, 7 secondsfact that fearful woes await those who consent to receive or maintain, those who are unsanctified, that means you need to choose and think
1:18:151 hour, 18 minutes, 15 secondsand pray and ask for leading of the Holy Spirit as to where I am to return my tithe. Because if Upper Columbia conference president does not publicly
1:18:231 hour, 18 minutes, 23 secondsobject to all this garbage from Lom Minda and Lassier and all the rest of it, he’s complicit in it. And if you support that conference structure, then
1:18:311 hour, 18 minutes, 31 secondsfearful wos from God are coming down your path.
1:18:361 hour, 18 minutes, 36 secondsNow, um, final question.
1:18:441 hour, 18 minutes, 44 secondsDoes God hold me responsible for the apostasies of those use my tithe? Yes, we do. We already covered that. There’s
1:18:511 hour, 18 minutes, 51 secondsa fantastic book on this, Tithes and Offlings, Trampling the Conscience by Standish and Standish.
1:18:581 hour, 18 minutes, 58 secondsThis library went online this Wednesday. You can now get it at standishlib.org.
1:19:051 hour, 19 minutes, 5 secondsYou can get the book. You can get the PDF. I would encourage you to read it.
1:19:081 hour, 19 minutes, 8 secondsIt’s one of the finest studies of what the Spirit of Prophecy says about tithing that you’re going to find in the Adventist church.
1:19:161 hour, 19 minutes, 16 secondsSo, what do we say then in conclusion?
1:19:191 hour, 19 minutes, 19 secondsI’ve got a burning tower of Babel up there as you can see. I want to say this.
1:19:261 hour, 19 minutes, 26 secondsMy loyalty to Christ must override my loyalty to any failing institution.
1:19:331 hour, 19 minutes, 33 secondsFriendship with the world is emity with God.
1:19:381 hour, 19 minutes, 38 secondsTo directly support with my money though the tithes I return that which God condemns as an abomination brings me under God’s condemnation.
1:19:501 hour, 19 minutes, 50 secondsI’ve spoken about true and free Adventists before. I mean, I literally have contact with them in Russia. We talk on Zoom. They do exist.
1:19:571 hour, 19 minutes, 57 secondsBut I’m I want to use true and free Adventists in this sense that I’m a true true and free Adventist in the sense that I’m true to the beliefs of
1:20:051 hour, 20 minutes, 5 secondsscripture as taught by our church. And I’m free from any denominational, institutional, UN or papal control over my conscience or over my body.
1:20:161 hour, 20 minutes, 16 secondsUm, I need to speak carefully here if I haven’t already needed to speak
1:20:231 hour, 20 minutes, 23 secondscarefully, but I need to speak carefully now.
1:20:261 hour, 20 minutes, 26 secondsUm, a prominent a prominent preacher with African heritage contacted me a while ago and
1:20:351 hour, 20 minutes, 35 secondswanted to chastise me for my position on liberty of conscience. And I said, “Brother,” I said, “Would you agree with me that the transatlantic slave trade, which
1:20:441 hour, 20 minutes, 44 secondstook millions from West and South Africa, across the Atlantic to South America, North America, would you agree with me that was one of the greatest
1:20:521 hour, 20 minutes, 52 secondscrimes in human history, spanning centuries and millions of souls?” Yes.
1:20:581 hour, 20 minutes, 58 secondsAnd how many years did those Africans fight for to have agency over their own bodies for centuries?
1:21:071 hour, 21 minutes, 7 secondsThey rose up in Haiti with a rebellion and gained their freedom.
1:21:121 hour, 21 minutes, 12 secondsAnd how is it that just a few years after gaining civil rights in America with the Civil Rights Act in what 1964
1:21:191 hour, 21 minutes, 19 secondswas it? How is it that within one lifetime we have Adventists with an African heritage just yielding control of their bodies once more to another person?
1:21:321 hour, 21 minutes, 32 secondsIf if you fought against slavery, then you should be fighting for your ability to have agency over your own body and your own conscience.
1:21:441 hour, 21 minutes, 44 secondsAnd it just strikes me as strange that so many African-American Adventists and particularly our regional conferences were gung-ho on the mandates
1:21:541 hour, 21 minutes, 54 secondsand said to their members, “Yes, we’ve escaped slavery, but now we must submit to a new form of slavery.”
1:22:021 hour, 22 minutes, 2 secondsI said, “Why is it that you have yielded agency over your own body so quickly?
1:22:081 hour, 22 minutes, 8 secondsIf you preach about the evils of slavery, why do you submit to slavery all over again? And there was no answer.
1:22:171 hour, 22 minutes, 17 secondsBut we have to have critical thinking.
1:22:191 hour, 22 minutes, 19 secondsWe have to think about the implications of what we’re doing.
1:22:241 hour, 22 minutes, 24 secondsWhen the mark of the beast is imposed, I believe that most parts of our structure will simply be swept away
1:22:321 hour, 22 minutes, 32 secondsbecause if you neither buy nor sell, you can’t bank, you can’t rece, you can’t process payroll, you can’t receive tithe, the conference is essentially
1:22:391 hour, 22 minutes, 39 secondsnull and void if it’s not legally um de uh if it does not lose its legal registration.
1:22:461 hour, 22 minutes, 46 secondsBut we don’t from the spirit of prophecy that the final crisis that large parts of the structure will be swept away.
1:22:531 hour, 22 minutes, 53 secondsToday some of us find ourselves outside the denominational walls like literally today.
1:23:031 hour, 23 minutes, 3 secondsBut one day there aren’t going to be any denominational walls and we’re not we’re all going to be outside those walls because there won’t be any walls anymore.
1:23:121 hour, 23 minutes, 12 secondsIt’s only a question of how you get outside the walls.
1:23:171 hour, 23 minutes, 17 secondsAnd when it happens once again, we will be a movement of
1:23:231 hour, 23 minutes, 23 secondshouse churches focused on local ministry. Sister White says, going doortodoor in that final crisis.
1:23:321 hour, 23 minutes, 32 secondsWe’ll be a ministry of house churches with local elders and deacons and deacons without an administrative structure that
1:23:391 hour, 23 minutes, 39 secondscan betray us once again into the hands of the esqueological foes of God and his people.
1:23:451 hour, 23 minutes, 45 secondsYou may be outside the walls today, but you’re still within the faith.
1:23:501 hour, 23 minutes, 50 secondsAnd one day, we’re all going to be outside the walls, but by God’s grace, we’ll still be within the faith.
1:23:561 hour, 23 minutes, 56 secondsSo, it really doesn’t matter whether you’re in the walls today or outside the walls because one day those walls will be gone. What matters is are you within the faith?
1:24:051 hour, 24 minutes, 5 secondsSo, what what am I asking you for today?
1:24:071 hour, 24 minutes, 7 secondsWhat am I challenging today? And for those of you going to watch this online, what I want to challenge you is this.
1:24:131 hour, 24 minutes, 13 secondsIf we want to channel all this energy, if we want to capture all that steam that’s rising around the avenous world of frustration and disappointment and
1:24:211 hour, 24 minutes, 21 secondsdisillusionment and disengagement, if we want to funnel that, then I want to challenge you today. If you’re watching this and the Holy Spirit has convicted
1:24:291 hour, 24 minutes, 29 secondsyou that nobody today from this day forward should return any tithe in the form of many to any Adventist conference, mission or field until the
1:24:381 hour, 24 minutes, 38 secondsfollowing conditions are met. for the general conference to dissolve our union with the United Nations and to revoke
1:24:451 hour, 24 minutes, 45 secondsall the official statements so that we can be the pure bride of Christ and avoid the characteristics of a harlot daughter of Babylon.
1:24:531 hour, 24 minutes, 53 secondsSister White says that the harlot daughters of Babylon have two characteristics. They enter into alliances with the kings of this world
1:25:001 hour, 25 minutesand they adopt the doctrines of the papacy. We are in alliance with the nations of this world and by subjugating conscience we’ve adopted papal thinking.
1:25:091 hour, 25 minutes, 9 secondsWe’re coming awfully close to meeting Sister White’s definition of a harlot daughter of Babylon. I’m not saying we’re there yet, but we have the characteristics.
1:25:201 hour, 25 minutes, 20 secondsSo, what do we want is for our general conference to immediately dissolve the union with the United Nations and all of the statements. Why the statements?
1:25:271 hour, 25 minutes, 27 secondsBecause we have the 28 fundamental beliefs. And the administrators know that it takes 10, 15, 20 years to get a
1:25:351 hour, 25 minutes, 35 secondsnew administrative belief, but they can issue a new statement in in one day at the general conference that bypasses 20 years of Bible study for the world
1:25:421 hour, 25 minutes, 42 secondschurch. And those official statements have teeth. That’s what the world thinks we believe.
1:25:481 hour, 25 minutes, 48 secondsThat’s what employers use to harm Adventists in the mandate in the uh co.
1:25:531 hour, 25 minutes, 53 secondsSo those official statements are like a quick and easy way for the church leaders to impose new beliefs on us without any input from the members
1:26:011 hour, 26 minutes, 1 secondworldwide. So we want all the fun all the official statements set aside. It’s the only thing that the church the world should hear from us is the gospel that
1:26:091 hour, 26 minutes, 9 secondsis taught by Jesus Christ. The second thing is no tithe should be paid in the form of money to any conference mission
1:26:171 hour, 26 minutes, 17 secondsfield section worldwide until the general conferences apologizes to those who were hurt by the reaffirmation statement and gives the assurance that
1:26:261 hour, 26 minutes, 26 secondsthe GC will never again presume to override the conscience the convictions of the Holy Spirit upon the consciences of members worldwide. If the federal
1:26:351 hour, 26 minutes, 35 secondsgovernment, which is a godless entity, can apologize to the service members who were thrown out and call them warriors
1:26:431 hour, 26 minutes, 43 secondsof conscience, if the godless federal government can make an apology, why can’t the Adventist church?
1:26:501 hour, 26 minutes, 50 secondsAnd what I think about that is that 99.999% of Adventists just want the assurance that we made a mistake and we ain’t
1:26:581 hour, 26 minutes, 58 secondsgoing to do it again. And the vast vast majority are not going to sue. But we are the body of Christ and we’re supposed to talk about forgiveness and
1:27:061 hour, 27 minutes, 6 secondsreconciliation. It would be nice if we were to practice it. Thirdly, no tithe should be paid, particularly men
1:27:131 hour, 27 minutes, 13 secondsuntil all of our institutions actually agree to uphold what we believe.
1:27:201 hour, 27 minutes, 20 secondsIn the 1930s, Satan attacked the church through evolution.
1:27:251 hour, 27 minutes, 25 secondsMy grandfather was a preacher in London in the 1930s and 40s and he preached about evolution all the time because evolution was where Satan was attacking
1:27:331 hour, 27 minutes, 33 secondsthe church. In the 1960s and ‘7s, Satan was attacking the church through feminism and that led in our church to the women’s ordination movement. And
1:27:411 hour, 27 minutes, 41 secondsfrom the years 2010 onwards, Satan has attacked the church through third-wave feminism and the sexual revolution, which in particular is transgenderism.
1:27:491 hour, 27 minutes, 49 secondsAnd if this is the b the the boundaries of the church here, if Satan is attacking the church here, then preachers have to be defending the church here. If Satan is attacking the
1:27:581 hour, 27 minutes, 58 secondschurch here, you can’t be preaching nice soft sermons that are over here. You’ve got to be where the battle is to protect the flock. You’ve got to defend the
1:28:061 hour, 28 minutes, 6 secondsflock as a preacher or a Sabbath school teacher or as a local elder.
1:28:111 hour, 28 minutes, 11 secondsBut what we need today is the assurance that all of our colleges, all of our institutions and our
1:28:181 hour, 28 minutes, 18 secondsconferences will actually uphold what we claim to believe.
1:28:221 hour, 28 minutes, 22 secondsThat means in terms of marriage, we believe in lifelong monogous heterosexual marriage between one biological adult male and one biological adult female.
1:28:331 hour, 28 minutes, 33 secondsIt means that that we will pledge to uphold biblical human sexuality and to reject the sexual revolution in all of
1:28:391 hour, 28 minutes, 39 secondsits manifestations and any attempts to um normalize that which God has condemned among Adventists today.
1:28:481 hour, 28 minutes, 48 secondsAnd for administrators across the NAD, we want them to stop banning and cancelling Bible faithful present- truth
1:28:571 hour, 28 minutes, 57 secondspreachers, pastors, elders, and Sabbath school teachers. I’m only one of a large number of people that have been this has been done against them. I’m looking at
1:29:061 hour, 29 minutes, 6 secondssome of you now and I know that you’ve gone through this yourselves.
1:29:101 hour, 29 minutes, 10 secondsSo no tithe should be made paid unless those four conditions are met. Dissolve our relationship with the UN, set aside all our statements, apologize for the
1:29:181 hour, 29 minutes, 18 secondsaffirmation statement and agree to uphold what we believe in all of our institutions. And if our leaders at every level up to and including the GC
1:29:261 hour, 29 minutes, 26 secondsofficers themselves and if the leaders of our institutions like Lom Melinda and Lassiiera and our other colleges if they cannot and will not uphold what we
1:29:341 hour, 29 minutes, 34 secondsbelieve then as Ted Wilson says you need to resign and make way for Bible faithful leaders.
1:29:431 hour, 29 minutes, 43 secondsSuch leaders are corrupting our witness to the world.
1:29:481 hour, 29 minutes, 48 secondsA message to SDA leaders today as I finish this.
1:29:531 hour, 29 minutes, 53 secondsI once said in a sermon, “If you go woke, you go broke.” Now I go a step further. If you remain woke, you deserve to go broke and the irregular lines will flourish.
1:30:051 hour, 30 minutes, 5 secondsSo make your choice to those SDA leaders who’ve gone woke. If you want to remain woke, go broke.
1:30:141 hour, 30 minutes, 14 secondsYou deserve to go broke. and let the irregular lines of faithful ley flourish.
1:30:201 hour, 30 minutes, 20 secondsAnd for faithful Adventists worldwide who are dismayed and discouraged, disillusioned and disengaged at the moral corruption of our leaders, I want
1:30:281 hour, 30 minutes, 28 secondsto say today, be of good courage. You may think you’re on your own, but God has his 7,000 who’ve not yet bowed the knee to Baal. We are not fighting
1:30:361 hour, 30 minutes, 36 secondsagainst our church because we are the church. We are contending for the pure faith that’s been passed on to us from
1:30:431 hour, 30 minutes, 43 secondsthe apostles onward. And we are striving that we, the body of Christ, will become the pure bride of Christ. We are not
1:30:501 hour, 30 minutes, 50 secondsfighting the church because we are the church. We’re fighting apostasy among our leaders.
1:30:571 hour, 30 minutes, 57 secondsMy final slide here is what matters is not our numbers, but what matters is whether our cause is just and of God.
1:31:071 hour, 31 minutes, 7 secondsThe time has come for you and I to stand together, to stand up, and to stand tall for God.
1:31:151 hour, 31 minutes, 15 secondsAnd if our cause is just, who can be against us?
1:31:201 hour, 31 minutes, 20 secondsEverything I have said today is publicly available on the internet. You can see it for yourself. I haven’t made anything
1:31:261 hour, 31 minutes, 26 secondsup. Is factual and true. You may say this won’t affect me, but if you have kids that go to our colleges, it will affect you.
1:31:361 hour, 31 minutes, 36 secondsIt’s affecting many people today.
1:31:381 hour, 31 minutes, 38 secondsIf there is to be healing in our worldwide church, we have to have truth speakers. There has to be a recognition
1:31:451 hour, 31 minutes, 45 secondsof where we are so that we can have the right diagnosis and identify the right treatment plan. So I say these words
1:31:531 hour, 31 minutes, 53 secondstoday not in any anger. I hope you haven’t heard anger in my words. I speak in sorrow for what has come upon our church.
1:32:001 hour, 32 minutesand my prayer, my yearning, my desires that we can have reconciliation not around the writings of Marks but at the foot of the cross and that we will
1:32:091 hour, 32 minutes, 9 secondsonce again uphold and share with the world the pure and the pure love of the everlasting gospel.
1:32:151 hour, 32 minutes, 15 secondsAnd it’s my prayer tonight today that every conference president, every union officer, the GC officers, the the um the
1:32:231 hour, 32 minutes, 23 secondsuh educators in our institutions, conference and college presidents, that they will look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are
1:32:311 hour, 32 minutes, 31 secondsfaithfully representing Jesus Christ or not.
1:32:351 hour, 32 minutes, 35 secondsI hope and pray that this sermon will not be the cause of division in our church, but will be the cause for coming
1:32:421 hour, 32 minutes, 42 secondstogether in repentance, starting with me.
1:32:451 hour, 32 minutes, 45 secondsand that we can as as we come closer to Jesus as individuals, we will automatically come closer one to another. The goal of such preaching is
1:32:541 hour, 32 minutes, 54 secondsnot to tear the church down, but it’s that the church can be pure. We can be unified on scripture and that the witness we give to the world is not
1:33:031 hour, 33 minutes, 3 secondsfilled with competing and contradictory messages.
1:33:071 hour, 33 minutes, 7 secondsSo be of good courage. If the cause is just and God before us, then who can be against us?
1:33:151 hour, 33 minutes, 15 secondsIt’s not it’s not just up to preachers to stand and talk about these things.
1:33:191 hour, 33 minutes, 19 secondsBut now the matter is in your hands as the leoty. Pray about it and move and act as the Holy Spirit moves upon your
1:33:271 hour, 33 minutes, 27 secondsconscience. May it be between you and God and let no man or institution condemn you for the decisions you make.
1:33:341 hour, 33 minutes, 34 secondsMay God bless us as we stand tall in an era of universal apostasy.

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