Standing for the truth | Dr. Conrad Vine

And uh so now we start this afternoon and this is the third of our talk today and I’ve called this one standing for

truth. And um I I want to uh talk this afternoon about um what do we find in

the scriptures and in the spirit of prophecy about standing for truth. And the reason I speak about this is because

you never know when the spotlight’s going to fall upon you. You have no idea when in life um in

God’s providence the spotlight is going to fall upon you. And you just pray that

when the spotlight falls upon you, it will not find any spots.

You pray that when the spotlight falls upon you, it will find you walking in the light. Amen.

And in a world that is increasingly hostile to those who bear the name of Christ, if any spots are found, then

people will make much about that and try and discredit you. Um, but if the spotlight falls upon you, um, you want

to be found spotless. You want to be found walking in the light. You want to be make make sure there’s no shadow or hint of darkness in

how you live. And you know I uh in you know part of my own experience last five years I had no idea the spotlight would

fall upon me but it did. And so I’m speaking this kind of from personal

experience here this afternoon. Um none of us has any idea when the spotlight will hit us. There’s a story from the

Soviet Union of uh um it was in just after Yuragarin went into space where he

went into low orbit around the world and the Soviets they celebrated him and they they were saying there is no God on

planet earth because Yuri Gagarin went up into space and he did not see God and the story was going that there was a

kindergarten teacher in Moscow and she was telling the little children there is no God because Yuri Gagarin didn’t see

God and this little girl a four-year-old raised her hand and she simply said please ma’am she My God lives higher up.

Amen. And wherever the story of Yuri Gagarin not seeing God is told, so the story is

told to that faithful little four-year-old girl who obviously came from a Christian home and she realized

that what this man the teacher was saying was not true and that her God lives higher up. And so you never know

in life when the spotlight’s going to fall upon you and when your words or your deeds are going to be the subject of public scrutiny. And when your words

and deeds are the subject of public scrutiny, um, believe you me, everything you say will be taken down and used in

evidence against you. Absolutely everything. Um, and so, uh, I I I I

received last week, um, from one of the conferences in America. It wasn’t directly to me, but somebody sent it to

me. They sent a letter to all their pastors warning them not to invite me to their churches. And then attached to

that, there were three pages, three documents. And these documents they obviously came from um church

headquarters because every sentence had a number attached to it like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 down the left hand side. That’s

how the secretariat of the church operates. So this is kind of like a legal looking document and it had dozens

and dozens of quotes from all the sermons last 10 years with chapter and verse and dates and time and YouTube

link and the bits in bold underline. There was no comment that said this is why it’s heresy, but it was just pages

and pages of documents. And I realized, oh, somebody’s watching every word I say and they’re watching every word I say

because they want reason to accuse. And so I said to if I should just start sending my sermon notes to the general

conference from now on and say, you know, here you are, have a look at it and then you see there’s nothing heretical there. But you have no idea

when the spotlight’s going to hit you. Um, all you can do is pray that somehow you’ll be ready and you’ll be able to

stand in the glare of that light. Amen. Because that light is not meant to illuminate you. That light is meant to

overwhelm you in its glare. When that’s when the spotlight hits. So, um I’ve entitled this afternoon’s talk standing

for truth. And um uh let’s bow our heads first and ask for a word of prayer. Our

heavenly father, Lord, we thank you so far for the blessings of the Sabbath day. Lord, we thank you for the freedom

we have to worship here in America. Lord, we thank you for this Methodist church up here in Graing and for their

pastors and leadership team who’ve opened their church to us so graciously today. And Lord, I pray your blessing

upon us now as we share these moments together. Lord, I pray that your spirit who inspired these words will speak

through me and bring conviction to each of our hearts and minds. Uh Lord, may this time be used for the edification,

the building up of the body of Christ. This I ask in Jesus’ holy name. Amen.

And so our journey today, as you see on the screen, um that’s the journey. There’s Oh, there’s a long long thing

there, isn’t there? Um there’s seven points, then a conclusion. So that’s not a normal sermon. Most sermons are three

points than a conclusion, but I tried to squeeze a bit more extra in here because it was a Sabbath afternoon and I kind of

figured we will have a bit more time. Um so the lady who’s keeping my my clock can Okay. Can you remind me at 45

minutes this time? Well, my hand, but I think you were busy. Oh, you did, did you? All right.

Okay. So, there’s the keeper of the royal watch down there, and she’s going to indicate to me when it’s time for me

to draw this to a close. All right. So, there’s our journey. We’re going to look at a very famous Adventist quote. Then, we’re going to look at uh the next

headings. Our love matters, unity on a scriptural basis, thus sayith the Lord, watchmen, what of the night, reproofs,

counselss, and warnings, and sighing over the body. And then we come to our conclusion. So, that’s the journey we’re

going to make today. And really the focus here was is on um standing for truth when the spotlight is upon you and

that spotlight is not your friend. And that is happening more and more particularly with cancel culture even

within our own church. And so let’s come first to a very famous Adventist statement and um there’s a quote if you

can show it on the screen there the next slide. This is a very very famous quote that Adventists talk all the time and it

says this. The church may appear as about to fall but it does not fall. And it’s amazing to me how often when when

Adventists go through a crisis, they immediately fall back on the comfort blanket of two or three famous quotes in

the spirit of prophecy. And then they keep quoting these back and forth to each other. And the re the reason they

do it, it seems to me, is not just because it provides comfort, but it excuses them from the need to stand up

and speak out about something. God has said it’s it will be like this. Therefore, there’s nothing we can do

about it. So, we don’t need to speak up about things. So, this is a very famous Adventist quote. Would you agree with

me? The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. Now, uh we hear this a lot when people are talking

about what’s happening when they talk about, you know, cultural Marxism and, you know, critical theories going

through our colleges and so forth, our alliances with the United Nations, USAD, the World Health Organization, and so

forth. And so people, they quote this all the time as if somehow God has

ordained that this is going to happen, but the church will somehow pull through at the end of time. And therefore it’s

like a it’s like a spiritual comfort blanket. Why is it a comfort blanket? Because implicitly it relieves the

members of any responsibility to to speak up or to rebuke or to seek administrative correction or spiritual

renewal because the church will will only appear as if it’s about to fall but it won’t.

In fact basically we believe on this verse here that everything will work out fine despite today’s shortcomings and

struggles. And is that what the quote is actually saying?

I don’t think so. What is the quote saying? Well, let’s ask ourselves because Sister White is

giving this expression here. We’ll come to the the quote in its context in a minute, but let’s ask how does she

define the word church. So, on the next slide there, we have a very famous quote there from 17 manuscript releases. It

says, God has a what? Church. Okay. It is not the great cathedral. Neither is it the national

establishment. Neither is it the various denominations. It is the people who love God and keep his commandments.

So in the eyes of God, his church are comprised of those who love him and who

keep his commandments. And Acts of the Apostles read from the beginning, faithful souls have constituted the the

church on earth. So in this sense, when Sister White uses the word church in

this sense, she’s not talking about everybody who ever sat in a church throughout salvation history. She’s

saying that from the beginning of time through to today God has always had a faithful people. They’re known only to

God because in any in any church in any time in any country in any century you’ve always got wheat and tear sitting

next to each other. But in this sense of the word church, Sister White is saying that God knows that in every visible

congregation, there’s an invisible faithful remnant to God in that moment and in that time. And the God has always

had that from Abel and Seth all the way through to today. So that’s one way in

which Sister White uses the word church. Now, she also uses the word church in another sense. Um and and in this this

particular sense, the first sense that the pure church that we’re talking about here, by definition, there are no

unfaithful or commandmenting members in that particular church. And only God who reads the heart knows its true

membership. So this church that Sister Dwight is talking about here, this true church through the ages, it has no

physical building. It has no denominational structure or label. And it is visible and known only to God

because it goes from Abel all the way down to us. So by extension it can’t be the 7th avenist church from 1863 onwards

and it can’t be ancient Israel from you know old testament times. It goes all the way back to Abel. And so God has a

in every generation God has those who are faithful to him and they are known to him regardless of who happens to be

worshiping around them at that time. Then the next sense that sister white uses the word church is found in the

next quote that you see in the screen. This is from fifth testimonies and she says there if you can change the slide

there. Um there are thank you there are both believers and unbelievers in the church and Christ represents these two

colasses in his parable of the vine and its branches. And then she goes on to say the advancements of the church is

by the wrong course of its members. Uniting with the church although an important and necessary act

does not make one a Christian nor ensure salvation. So what do we learn from this? So on in

the one sense when sister white uses the word church she means the those who are faithful to God who love him and who

keep his commandments spanning all the centuries of human history. And the second way in which she uses the

word church is then there is also a visible church in every generation and that visible church comprises wheat and

tears simultaneously. So when she uses the word church, you have to think carefully what sense of

the word is she using when she uses the word church in a given quote. And the next slide here, she talks more about

the wheat and the tears. Um she says um has God no living church. He has a

church, but it is the church militant, not the church triumphant. We are sorry that there are defective members that

there are tears amid the wheat. And so she’s basing this on the parable of the wheat and the tears and that so uh God

has a church. He has a faithful remnant in every generation and they they they cross all denominational boundaries.

They go back to faithful Abel and Seth all the way through to us today. And then God has a visible church. And that

visible church in any generation has got a visi has got those who are wheat and tears. But that is known really only

unto God. Even Elijah in first kings 19 when he said I only I am left and he

couldn’t tell what there were any other wheat in the in the among Israel. But God says no I have reserved unto me yet

7,000 who have not not bowed the knee to Baal. So even Elijah as one of the most

famous prophets the Old Testament he couldn’t see any other wheat in the in the people of Israel but God could. So

often times when there is the wheat and the tears, it’s sometimes hard even for the wheat to recognize who the other

wheat really are. And we see that from first kings 19 in the story of Elijah.

And so um then you have so the question how long will the wheat and the tears exist in the church? And um so the

living church in the p passage you see on the screen refers to the visible organized body of Christ within which

there is the wheat and the tears until Christ separates them. Now when is when

does the there are two separations that take place. There’s a separation at the

close of probation. Then there is a separation at the second coming. And the separation at the second

coming is a visible manifestation of the second of the separation that takes place at the close of probation. And so

um let’s move on to the next slide. There it says the tears and the wheats are now co-mingled but then uh but then

the one hand that can that alone can separate them will give to everyone his true petition or position. The pure ore

and the dross will no longer co-mingle. Then she goes on to talk about when that will be. It says the time is not far

distant when the test will come to every soul. The mark of the beast will be urged upon us. Revelation 13. In this

time the gold will be separated from the dross within the church. So there is a

test coming upon the church and the visible church which has wheat and tears within it. Um God will use a a test that

will coming upon the world in order to separate the gold from the dross or the wheat from the tears. And the next quote

talks more about when that happens. It says, “Sunday keeping is not yet the mark of the beast and will not be until

the decree goes forth causing men to worship this idol Sabbath. The time will come when this day will be will be the

test, but that time has not come yet.” And so there is a test coming upon the

world over false worship and true worship, coerced worship or free worship. And so with this kind of

background in mind, we understand therefore there is a there’s an invisible true church that goes from

Abel through to today. that’s comprised of those who keep the commandments of God and who love God. And because they

go from Abel through to today, you can’t say that is a particular denomination. It’s a faithful group in every

generation. And then there is the visible people of God, whether it be ancient Israel or the apostolic church

or you might say the Reformation Churches in the 1500 and so forth. And as you go through history, you can

identify a visible people of God. Um, but within that visible people of God, within that visible kingdom, you will

always have wheat and tears side by side. And only God knows who really is wheat and who really are the tears. So

let’s come to the quote that we’re we’re talking about here. It says, “The church may appear as about to fall, but it does

not fall.” And if we turn to the next slide, please. Um, this is the quote uh in its entirety.

And it says this, “Nations will be stirred to their very center.” And she’s talking about Revelation 13 here.

Support will be will be withdrawn from those who proclaim God’s only standard of righteousness, the only sure test of

character. And all who will not bow to the decree of the national councils and obey the

national laws to exalt the Sabbath instituted by the man of sin to the disregard of God’s holy day will feel

not the oppressive power of popery alone but of the Protestant world the image of

the beast. Satan will work his miracles to deceive. He will set up his power as

supreme. And so what we’re talking about here um and this is the immediate context for that quote like the church

will appear as if it’s about to fall. Sister White is talking here about when when the national Sunday law is passed

at the end of time when church and state unites to impose

coerced worship on the world. That’s the context what she’s talking about. Then the next slide um says that quote it

says the church may appear as about to fall but it does not fall. So which

church is she talking about here? Well, she goes on to say, “It remains.” That is the church that will appear as if it

will fall, but it does not. It remains while a sin is in Zion will be sifted out. The chaff will be separated from

the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless, it must take place. None but those who’ve been

overcoming by the blood of the lamb and the word of their testimony will be found with the loyal and true without

spot or stain of skin, without gile in their mouths. You must be we must be divested of our self-righteousness and

arrayed in the righteousness of Christ the remnants that purify their souls by obeying truth gather strength from the

trying process exhibiting the beauty of holiness amidst the surrounding apostasy. So then we ask ourselves so

when she has that phrase the church may appear as about to fall but it does not fall what exactly is she talking about?

Well, in that context there in second selected messages, she’s not talking about the visible corporate church as a

whole. She’s not talking about that group.

Many assume that she’s talking about the visible corporate 7th avenous church with our legal structure as if somehow

the structure is not able to fall. It will appear as if it’s about to fall, but it does not fall. But that’s not

what Sister White is talking about here. the church that she’s talking about here um is not identifiable until the

imposition of the Sunday laws because it’s when the national Sunday laws are imposed and then when the

national Sunday laws are imposed and everybody has to make a choice whether to obey the commandments of God or to

follow the commandments of men that’s when this church will appear as if it’s about four that is those who are

faithful to God will be revealed for who they really are so it’s not A it’s not a

visible denomination. She’s talking here not about there.

Remember there are two understandings of the word church. One is God has a faithful remnant in every generation. That’s the first understanding. And the

second is God has a visible people that comprises the wheat and the tears. So when she’s using the passage here, the

church may appear as about to fall but it does not fall. She’s not talking about the church that is visible with wheat and tears. She’s talking about the

vi the phys the the faithful remnants in each generation. But this this context here is the faithful remnant in the

final crisis and they will be revealed for who they are in the final crisis.

Does that make sense? So if this is the case,

if this is the case, then we need to do all in our power

spiritually to be counseledled among that group.

And character is not revealed in times of crisis. It’s not formed in times of crisis. It’s revealed in times of

crisis. Charact Crisis reveals who you really are. Crisis reveals what your

default position is. If somebody were to shout fire in this building now, we’d all rush for the exits. We look for the

red exit sign. There’s three at the back there. And we’d all rush for the exits because that’s our default position in

times of crisis. Very few people say, “No, we’re not going to leave the building. We’re going to carry on worshiping and you let the fire brigade

come and take fair take care of the fire in their own time.” No. Our default position is revealed in times of crisis.

And so this phrase the church may appear as about to fall but it does not um site is talking about in the final crisis

when the final coercion of conscience is going on and there’s immense pressure on us to follow the false Sabbath and do

not honor the true fourth commandment Sabbath in that moment those who are true to God will be revealed

and they’re going to come under worldwide pressure and persecution but they’re not going to it’ll appear like they’re about to fall but God’s going to

carry them through. So, we’re not talking here about the structure.

That may be heretical to some, but we’re not talking about the structure here. And sometimes we say the church may

appear as about to fall, but it does not as an excuse not to stand up and speak out about anything because the church as

a structure will always make its way through. But that’s not what she’s talking about in this passage here. She’s talking about a faithful remnant

who will be revealed in the final crisis when she says the trying process. You see the last line there. Um they they g

they gather strength from the trying process. So that final period of the trying process, proving process, the

final coercion of conscience will reveal who that faithful remnant are at the end of time. So with that in mind, how then

should we stand? Um how should we stand when the spotlight falls upon us? And

the first headline I want to show here, the first point, next slide, please, is that love needs to be the basis for

defending your truth. The truth that is love matters. You know, if if if somebody knows that

you love them, you can say an awful lot more to them than if they know that you don’t love them.

Is that true? Yeah. I think it’s generally true. If if if a teenager knows that you love them,

they’re willing to accept what you have to say as a parent more than if they think that you hate them. Will you just

hate me anyway? That’s why you’d say that kind of thing to me. So, when you know that you’re loved, you’re more

willing to accept what somebody is going to say to you. And there’s there’s a biblical um um passage that illustrates

this nicely. The next slide is from Mark 10:17-21. And in this passage here, this is a

story of the rich young ruler. And we’re not going to look at all the the text here, but if you look at the bit in red,

the line above, um it says the bit in red says, “Jesus looking at him loved

him and said, “You lack one thing. Go sell what you own, give money to the poor, and you’ll have treasure in

heaven, then come and follow me.” Now, what’s interesting about this passage is this is the only time in the Gospels

that it says that Jesus loves anybody. doesn’t even say he loves his mother.

This is the only person in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John where it says that Jesus loved X, Y, or Z. It doesn’t say

he loved the disciples, not by name. This is the only individual that says Jesus explicitly loved him. And it says

Jesus looking at him loved him and said, “I accept you as you are.” Is that what

the text says? No. No. No. No. The text says Jesus looked at him and he loved him and

because he loved him, he was willing to tell him the truth about his spiritual condition.

You follow on that? If you love somebody, you’re willing to tell them the truth in order to help them be

saved. If if there’s somebody hurtling in a car towards a cliff and you look at it,

think, “Oh, that’s kind of interesting that they’re all going to die off that cliff there.” Most people are apathetic. But if you then if they realize that’s

my son or my daughter in that car, you’re going to start yelling at them as loud as you can to change the course of

direction or they’re not going to survive the crash. And so Jesus looked at this man and he loved him and he

said, um, you need to change the way of your life. You can’t stay the way you are. So love

is not the same as acceptance. Apathy leads to acceptance because you don’t care about their eternal outcome. If you

love somebody, you’re going to share the truth with them in love so that they might be saved. Even if it means risking

that relationship. So Jesus looked at him and he certainly loved and he loved him, but he didn’t

accept him for was he as he was. He said, “If you want to be saved, this is what you need to do. Sell everything you

own and give it to the poor, then come and follow me.” And that’s a principle that we need to keep in mind as as a

fundamental principle when we talk about standing in the light and standing up for truth is that you have to love those

you’re speaking to. If you don’t love the people you’re speaking to, they know you’re not going

to love them. They’re not going to listen to what you say. You My mom used to give us spoons of cod

liver oil when we were growing up. Vile stuff. We were vegetarian, but we got a

big tablespoon of cod liver oil once a week. And you know, every time we brought up air for the next two or three

days, up came cod liver oil smell. It was disgusting. And so my mom knew that the only way to

get that cod liver oil down us was to chase it down with a glass of orange juice. Now this was, you know, just after rationing in England. Orange juice

was like like liquid gold in those days. We get orange juice on like Christmas day if we were lucky. And on Christmas

we get like an orange and a banana. on during the week we used to eat margarine because margarine was invented in World

War I by the Germans because they couldn’t have butter anymore. So it was a chemical composition and it was vile

stuff. But on on the Sabbath, my mom would bring out a little pout p of butter and all of us kids would say,

“Oh, mom, real butter.” And she’d say, “Hush now, hush now.” In front of all the guests. But um we lived in that kind

of era growing up in the 70s in England. And my mom knew that the only way to get the cod liver oil down, the truth of the

cod liver oil was only palatable if we chased it down with a glass of orange juice. So because there was orange

juice, which was a rare thing back then, we were willing to take the cod liver oil.

And when you speak the truth to somebody, speaking it out of a basis of love and

concern for their eternal well-being helps that truth go an awful lot further. And if they think you don’t

care about them and that you’re just saying it because you you’re filled with spite or you’re celebrating their demise, they’re not going to accept what

you have to say. So at the next slide there, we have the commentary on this from Desire of Ages, page 356. We read

there, Jesus himself never purchased peace by compromise. His heart overflowed with love for the whole human

race, but he was never indulgent to their sins. He was too much their friend

to remain silent while they were pursuing a course that would ruin their souls.

He the souls that he had purchased with his own blood. He labored that man should be true to himself as true to his

higher and eternal interest. The servants of Christ are called to do the same work and they should beware lest in

seeking to prevent discord they surrender the truth.

So uh very sobering thoughts here, aren’t they? that Jesus was never indulgent to the

sin of others because he loved people. He was willing to say the truth in love

in order that sinners might be saved. And so if we’re to follow in the example

of Christ, if we are ever called to if the spotlight falls upon us and we are called to we find ourselves in the

public arena and the spotlight is shining us, we have to speak out as Christ, we need to do so out of love for

those we’re speaking to. Love is going to make what we say go a whole lot further. The next quote goes

on a bit more. This talks about preachers here. It says those min ministers who are men pleasers who cry

peace peace when God has not spoken peace might well humble their hearts before

God asking pardon for their in insincerity and their lack of moral courage. It is not from love for their

neighbor that they smooth down the message entrusted to them, but because they are self-indulgent and easel

loving. True love seeks first the honor of God and the salvation of souls. Those

who have this love will not evade the truth to save themselves from the unpleasant results of plain speaking.

When souls are in peril, God’s ministers will not consider self, but will speak the word given them to speak, refusing

to excuse or paliate evil. Sobering thoughts. Yes. So I think, you

know, whenever I’m writing a sermon, there’s always the temptation to um let’s just kind of like tone this down a

bit. Yeah. Who’s the audience? Are they going to be offended? Do they have any

financial influence over me in the future? Um are you going to read the opinion polls before you write your

sermons? Are you going to consider which way the political winds are blowing before you prepare your sermons? Well, John the

Baptist didn’t, and he was the greatest of all the prophets. And as Jesus says, who did he go out to the desert to see,

a reed blown in the wind? No. People listened to John the Baptist because he

was willing to speak that which was politically incorrect in his time. He was willing. There were no sacred cows

in John the Baptist heard. Uh he just wanted to proclaim truth and win souls for Christ to prepare the way for the

Messiah. And so here says sister Dwight homes in on ministers and she’s she’s

absolutely right. There is often a reluctance to speak the truth from the pulpit because we don’t we don’t like

the side effects of preaching truth from a pulpit which is rejection or exclusion or cancellation.

So if you’re an elder here, if you are a preacher, I encourage you to think about this. God has called you to speak the

for seek the honor of God and the salvation of souls. That’s what’s written down there. the honor of God and

the salvation of souls come what may. Come what may

and then we leave the consequences in God’s hands. So the first principle is that we are love is to be the basis for

those who are speaking the truth. Uh the next uh slide please is that unity only comes on a scriptural basis. And the the

text I’ve chosen for this is 2 John uh verses 7-11. And the apostle John is

speaking here about the the spirit of uh the deceivers and the antichrist within the early apostolic church. And he says

this, “Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. Any

such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Be on your guard so that you do not lose what we have worked for, but

may receive a full reward. Everyone who does not abide in the teaching of Christ, but goes beyond it does not have

God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the father and the son. Do not receive into the house or welcome anyone

who comes to you and does not bring this teaching. For to welcome is to participate in the evil deeds of such a

person. And so in the early church they would there were big debates about the nature of Christ. And in the first and

second centuries there was something called gnosticism. The word gnosis means knowledge. And the idea these were

mystery religions that you were saved by knowledge. And they had like levels of knowledge. They like the Freemasons

today. They had degrees of knowledge within the mystery religions. And in the mystery religions and in gnosticism um

there was a branch that that they call doseticism. And doseticism is from the verb do. It means to seem. And so they

said that that which is spirit is good and that which is physical is bad. That was the basic idea. If it’s spirit, it’s

good. If it’s physical, it’s bad. So they would say Jesus appeared to walk along by the Sea of Galilee but his feet

left no footprints. And so because of this some people said

if the spirit is good and the physical is bad then we should deny the body and go into aeticism like monks living in

the desert. And other people say if the spirit is good and the flesh is bad then let’s abuse the flesh as much as we can.

Rioters living in immorality. These are kind of the two extremes that it led to. And so um the the antichrist you see

there it says who indeed is the antichrist is the person those who do not confess that Jesus Christ has come

in the flesh. So in the first and second century people said Jesus is the son of god but he did not come in the flesh and

those who said that um were John denounced as a spirit of antichrist. And today the exact opposite is the case. We

have people that say that Jesus was a physical literal man in human history, but he wasn’t the son of God. So we’ve

just reversed the whole situation from the first century to to the century in which we are dealing with here today.

But what John makes clear is that unity is only possible when we’re grounding it

in truth. Unity must have a scriptural basis. On

the next slide here, we read there that our church members see that there are differences of opinion among the leading

men and they themselves enter into controversy regarding the objects under dispute. Christ calls for unity, but he

does not call for us to unify in wrong practices. I urge our brethren to unify upon a true scriptural basis.

You know, it’s easy to cover up things, but it’s much harder. But if you cover

things up, when you know there’s a division, it’s easy to pretend that it’s not happening. And that doesn’t help

your church at all. It’s a harder thing to do to study something out, but at the end of it, the

conclusion is much stronger because the Holy Spirit has led you all in that study. When I first came to a church in

America, um they were divided over the the question of the new covenants and the old covenant. And some people were

saying we’re new covenant Adventists which means we’re going to go and start eating pork and all the rest of it. And

and so the churches were divided over this and this was a big thing 20 25 years ago and rather than saying to the

members when a preacher s about this I said to them well let’s spend the next quarter sitting around after potluck and

we’re going to study for a few hours every Sabbath afternoon all the covenants in the Bible and we’re going

to see what the Bible says about this. It was really hard work but by the end of it the church was united and say okay

this is where we stand because we’d all gone through that process together. So if if there is going to be unity in the

church it must be on a scriptural basis and that means studying the Bible

together so we can come to a common conclusion and being honest with ourselves that maybe the ideas I was

cherishing or pushing maybe they aren’t as strong when we shine the light of scripture upon them. Now the next next

slide here um to talk from great controversy explains this in a bit more detail. Um this is about the early

church uh in in the early centuries there. It says after a long and severe conflict the faithful few decided to

dissolve all union with the apostate church if she still refused to free herself from falsehood and idolatry. So

we’re reading here about the third and fourth centuries when you have um the idolatry coming into the church and

pagan ideas coming in and you had people who had then become the ward denses up in northern Italy and they’re refusing

to accept the idolatry and superstition coming into the church. And she goes on to say they that is the faithful

Christians of northern Italy at the time saw that separation was an absolute necessity if they would obey the word of

God. They dared not tolerate tolerate errors fatal to their own souls and set an example which would imperil the faith

of their children and children’s children to secure peace and unity. They were ready to make any concession

consistent with fidelity to God. But they felt that even peace would be too dearly purchased at the sacrifice of

principle. If unity could be secured only by the compromising of truth and righteousness, then let there be

difference and even war. Sobering words. Yes.

That if there is to be unity, it must be on a common understanding of scripture.

And we call that doctrine. And the challenge we face as Adventists

is when you say, “What is an Adventist?” Well, we believe in the 28 fundamental beliefs. We we are a product of the

modernist era and we’re now living in a post-modern world. And in the post-modern world, people don’t accept

the idea of doctrine. And let me give you an example. Uh when

you d when you drove to church today, did anybody drive by a stop sign?

Yeah. What did you do when you saw the stop sign?

You stopped or at least you tried to stop. But you’re thinking with a modernist

mindset because a modernist mindset says there is a sign that that case there

must be an author to that sign and that author had the authority to put that sign out there and that author has

authority over me in this moment of my life. And if I don’t obey that author,

um, then there’s going to be consequences for me. And if I see the sign and I stop, then everybody else who

sees the stop sign at a four-way junction, they’re all going to stop when they see the stop sign as well. And that’s how society gets along. And those

are the assumptions of the modernist world. But now we live in a post-modern world where young people are looking at

a sign like this and saying, “There’s a stop sign. How interesting. I wonder who put that there. Nobody will ever know

who put that sign there. It’s an unknowable author. And I certainly don’t accept that the author has any authority

over me in my life and my subjective lived experience. And who knows what the word stop mean?” Because legit meaning

is in the eye of the beholder, not in the eye of the author. We don’t know what he was trying to con communicate to

us. So, I’m going to glide through and you’re going to stop and you’re just going to take a right-hand turn and somebody else is going to reverse. But

that’s okay because that’s your truth.

And that’s how the postmodern mindset looks at the words the stop sign. And we may laugh at it, but we’re all

living in a postmodern world now. And the idea that the stop sign everybody in

this room and in this room we’ve got people from all around the world including myself.

Everybody knows to stop at a stop sign. That’s common understanding of a text. That’s called doctrine in theological

terms. In a post-modern world, doctrine is no longer possible because everybody

has their own interpretation of scripture. Nowadays, you get the men’s New King James Version and you get the

women’s New King James Version. You get a teenagers edition of the New King James Version. You get a women’s

devotional version of the King New King James Version. You get a men’s group reader of the New King James. I mean,

there are so many versions of the Bible. We’re producing Bibles for for ever small and niche markets because we

recognize we’re all postmodern and we interpret it from a certain perspective. you know, there’s the strong man’s

version of the Bible now for Samsons out there. Okay? And so, it’s not that the text has

changed, but the comments all around it. The commentary has all changed is aimed at a certain group in within society.

And the point about this is that we as Adventists have 28 fundamental beliefs that made sense in the 1880s and 1920s,

but in a postmodern world, the idea of doctrine is kind of unsustainable

just because we’re postmodern. So when we’re in saying we need to uphold the beliefs that God has passed

on to us, people are saying, “But why? That’s your truth and this is my truth.”

And that’s why it becomes harder and harder to main scriptural unity on a scriptural basis because fundamentally

in our western world, we deny the possibility that we can all read the same text and have the same

interpretation of the text. And so we have a new generation being raised in our churches of young people who say,

“Well, yeah, that’s fine. That’s your truth. But my truth is this. Because philosophically, nobody can have

the same interpretation of scripture, particularly in the modern, you know, the last 20 years with critical theory and so forth. This I read the Bible and

say, “Well, pastor, that’s because you’re white, heterosexual, and cisgender and male.” But I’m African and

I’m female and I’m transgender and I’m whatever else I want to identify as. Therefore, I have a different

interpretation of scripture equally as valid as yours. And because we’re so we are so sliced

and dice in different identity groups, so we expect the scripture to reflect and speak to our different identity

groups in different ways. So this idea of scripture of unity on a scriptural

basis is becoming harder and harder for us to to achieve because we are living more and more in a post-modern world

where the concept of doctrine is no longer possible of common understanding of the text. So this is becoming a real

problem for us as as Adventists as we uphold what we believe because everybody

wants to believe what they want to believe now regardless of what the rest of the church believes. Okay. So let’s come to the next um the next principle

here. So if if unity is supposed to be on a scriptural basis um even more um

fundamental is there needs to be a thus sayaith the lord for everything. Not just this is my conclusion from

reading all of scripture but ideally there is a thus sayaith the lord for the positions that we take. Acts chapter 5

we read an example here uh verses 27- 29 we see in red it says but Peter and the

apostles answered we must obey God rather than any human authority. As

simple as that. And so if we must obey God rather than any human authority, uh

that means if a human authority is saying do X, Y, and Z, then I need to be able to show from the word of God that

God says no, you do e you do A, B, and C. Society says do A, B, and C and the

God says no. God says do X, Y, and Z. You not you need to have thus sayaith

the Lord. The next slide, Acts 4:18-19. And it says there the Sanhedrin, they

called them Peter and John and ordered them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John

answered them, “Whether is right in God’s sight to listen to you rather than to God, you must judge.”

And so when we when the spotlight falls upon us and we have to speak up for truth, we need to make sure that if we

can’t have unity on a scriptural basis, at the very least, we need a thus sayaith the Lord.

And if we’re to have a thus sayith the Lord, it means that we need to know the scriptures for ourselves. You can’t just

say, well, I think this because a lot of people think a lot of nonsense in all honesty. A lot of people have got a lot of opinions that haven’t been thought

through. A lot of people live in pretty much thought-free zones

really. And what’s what’s trending on Twitter is guiding their thoughts for the day.

Doesn’t mean there’s not much going on up there. And so if we’re to have when the spotlight falls upon us and you’re

going to say something that could cause you to lose your job, cause your career to be canceled, cause you to lose your

professional license, cause you to fall behind on your mortgage, cause you to have your house repossessed, cause all

those different consequences. You need to make sure that you’ve got a thus sayaith the Lord behind you when you

stand up for something. So the next slide here, I’ve got another quote related to this. It says, “This

principle in our day, we are firmly to maintain. The banner of truth and religious liberty held off by the

founders of the gospel church and by God’s witnesses during the centuries that have passed since then has in this

last great conflict been committed to our hands. The responsibility for this gift resides with those whom God has

blessed with a knowledge of his word. We are to receive his word as supreme authority.” So she goes on to say this

from acts of the apostles. She says in the next slide there she says we are to recognize human governance as an

ordinance of divine appointment and teach obedience to it as a sacred duty within its legitimate sphere such as

stop signs on the road. But when its claims conflict with the claims of God, we must obey God rather than men. Now

listen to this bit in the red text. It says, “God’s word must be recognized as above all human legislation.”

And this is the the sentence that really catches my eyes. A thus saith the Lord

is not to be set aside for a thus saith the church or thus sayaith the state.

The crown of Christ is to be lifted above the diadems of earthly potentates.

And we say well when we read in the book of acts it’s always Peter and John and the apostles against the Sanhedrin. So

it’s the apostles against the union of church and state. But here Sister White is saying that um if there is a thus

sayaith the church that does not set aside a thus sayaith the Lord.

So it doesn’t matter what the executive committee votes. It must always be tested against the

scriptures. Doesn’t matter what your church board votes. We must always if we’re on the

board we need to make sure that those decisions have a clear thus sayith the Lord behind them.

We need to have a thus sayaith the Lord. And if somebody says to you, thus sayaith the church, and that is final,

your answer is to be no. We need to find a thus sayaith the Lord. Because as Luther said, the councils of

men have made mistakes many times over, including our own councils. Let’s be

honest. And if you don’t believe me, then for many decades, we paid women less than we

paid men for the same work. And it was only because one lady took the Pacific press to church back in the

1970s and she was roundly condemned at the time for doing that that now women and men get the same pay for the same

work working for conferences in the SDA church. So the councils of men that said women’s work women paying doing the same

work as men are worth less than men that decision that thus sayith the Lord had to be replaced with a thus sayith thus

sayaith the church had to be replaced with a thus sayaith the lord. So if there is to be if you are to stand

up and you are to speak out your primary concern is not what does the church say or what does the state

say your primary concern is what does the word of God say

and I’ve noticed over many years and I’ll say it again whenever there’s a new social issue come along transgenderism

is a great example many members rather than studying it out for themselves the issue they wait for an official position

statement to come out from the general conference to tell us what we’re supposed to believe on the topic.

And that’s just intellectual and spiritual laziness on my part and on all of our part. Each one of us needs to be

thinking these things through for ourselves and understanding what the word of God might say on these things rather than

just saying this is what the church says. Therefore, automatic that is what I automatically think. It doesn’t work

like that. Thus sayaith the Lord is not to be set aside for thus sayaith the church.

And so the next next quote there is from fourth biography here fourth biography

there it says we let them know that we are seventh adventists because we believe the Bible the Bible and the Bible only is the foundation of our

faith. Before these meetings close that people know from the scriptures why we are a peculiar people. The word is the

foundation of our faith and our dependence is upon Christ. So, do we order our lives in such a way

that people know that our life is built on a thus sayith the Lord? Do we make decisions because it’s the

popular thing to do because it’s the cool thing to do because everybody else is doing it because we’re trying to keep

up with the Joneses or do we make decisions and have opinions on matters because the Bible is the foundation of

our faith and we have a thus sayith the Lord for everything we say and do. Now, these are hard questions to ask and

uh we can answer those questions in the crevices of our own hearts. But I encourage you today to be thinking this through. Is the Bible and the Bible only

the foundation of your faith? And do you have a thus sayaith the Lord

for the decisions that you’re making in life? And so if we when the spotlight falls

upon you, if your life is to be a reflection of your heavenly father, then

your life needs to be a reflection of his revealed will in scripture. And therefore, it matters not what the

church says. What really matters is what the word of God says. And is my life in alignment with that first and foremost?

Which brings us to the next um stage of this journey this afternoon. And it’s watchmen What of the night? Kind of a

graphic picture up there. So if the church is to stay true to thus sayaith the Lord rather than the

councils of men, the church needs watchmen on the walls. And throughout if you look at old

testament history, there were three branches of government. Today we have three branches of government. Yes. We

have the executive that’s the president. We have the judiciary that’s the supreme court. And we have the legislature

that’s the congress. And in the old testament you had the same three branches. You had the kings, you had the

priests and you had the prophets. And God had all three all the way through Old Testament times when his people were

a nation. There were the the kings, they were the prophets, and there were the priests. And the kings were charged with

civil governance. And the priests took care of the religious liturgies that had to go on the sacrifices every day. But

God also needed prophets out there to bring correction to the priests or the kings when they went astray. And so God

had this kind of the triple three-legged stool for how Israel was to be governed uh during uh most of its ancient history

from the time of Samuel onwards. And so God has always had watchmen on the walls

to guide his people. Those watchmen were not the administrators but they were raised from

time to time to speak warnings to his people. And uh we find the first example is in Jeremiah chapter 6. Watchmen what

of the night and it says take warning O Jerusalem from Jeremiah 6 or I shall

turn from you in disgust and make you a desolation and uninhabited land. To whom shall I speak and give warning that they

may hear? See their ears are closed. They cannot listen. The word of the Lord is them an object of scorn. They take no

pleasure in it. From the least to the greatest of them, everyone is greedy for unjust gain. And from prophet to priest,

everyone deals falsely. They’ve treated the wound of my people carelessly, saying, “Peace, peace.” And the text

goes on to say, “Thus sayaith the Lord, stand at the crossroads and look and ask for the

ancient paths where the good way lies and walk in it and find rest for your souls.” But they say, “We will not walk

in it.” Also, I raised up sentinels or watchmen for you. Give heed to the sound of the trumpet, but they said, “We will

not give heed.” Therefore, here, O nations, and know, oh congregation, what will happen to them. And so God raises

up watchmen on the walls to save his people from themselves.

And I’m not saying I’m a watchman or not, but every congregation needs some kind of watchman.

Every congregation needs someone who is as true to duty as a needless to the pole.

every congregation. Thank you, sister. Who can remind the preacher that he’s gone over time? Is that 45 minutes or 30

minutes? 45. Oh, okay. I was being optimistic at 30 then. 45. Thank you for that reminder. A

watchman on the wall here. Thank you, sister. I appreciate that. Um, every preacher needs someone with a clock like

that to say, “Time out.” But every congregation needs a watchman on the wall. Someone who will speak the truth

in love. Someone who will sigh and cry for what is happening among God’s people. Someone who will say thus

sayaith the Lord rather than thus sayith the church board. Uh someone who will appeal to unity on the basis of what the

Bible says rather than what’s um politically popular within the church in that moment. Every congregation needs a

watchman on the wall. And let me tell you this, it’s not some it’s not easy to be a watchman on the wall.

And it’s not something you go looking for to be a watchman on the wall because when you’re a watchman on the wall, believe me, um people look at you with

less than love in their eyes. It comes back to haunt you if you’re a watchman on the wall. But God raises up

watchmen on the wall and they’re to give the trumpet a certain sound that everybody can hear and everybody can

know. And those watchmen are raised by God in order to save the people of God from themselves and the path that

they’re taking away from the word of God. The next question, the next quote goes on to say this. It’s from third

testimonies. It says, “It is not enough to many profess to believe the truth. All the soldiers of Christ virtually

obligate themselves to enter the crusade against the adversary of souls. That is a great controversy to condemn wrong and

to sustain righteousness. But the message of the true witness reveals the fact that it is terrible deception is

upon our people which it makes it necessary to come with warnings to break their spiritual slumber and to arouse

them to decided action. You know, I preached a sermon today, this morning of the parable of the 10 virgins, the the

the five wise virgins, the five foolish, and the coming of the groom precisely because part of my job as a preacher is

to wake people up to the the seriousness of the situation in which we find ourselves. Nobody wants to be lost. We

all need to turn away from being the tendency to become foolish and we need to embrace what it means to be wise. And

so we preach these things not because we’re trying to preserve the institutions of the past, but because we

want to be souls, want souls to be saved for the future. And that’s why preachers really should preach. It’s not to defend

the physical infrastructure. It’s to prepare a people to meet Jesus when he comes again. And to speak the

unvarnished truth so that people know this is my true spiritual condition. The preacher is not sugarcoating this for

us. He’s not giving us a placebo for a sermon, but he’s saying the the truth to me. And I’m gratefully speaking the

truth because nobody else will say it to me. And so the message of the true witness to the church of God reveals

that the church is in desperate trouble. They are in a spiritual slumber and they

needs to arouse to take decided action. The next slide is another quote along these lines. It says, “If God abhors one

sin above another of which his people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and

neutral neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of

hostility against God. We’re not just to pass by on the other

side of the road. We’re not to be like the priest and the Levi Levite who saw the injured man on the road and just

walk by on the other side and pretend I’m not looking there. You know, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

If we’re going to be watchmen on the walls, then we cannot have indifference and

neutrality is is a manifestation of apathy that I call you my brother, but I really don’t care about you. As you saw

in the very beginning here this afternoon, Jesus looked at that man and he loved him and he said, “If you wish

to inherit eternal life, go and sell all you have and give to the Paul and come follow me.” Which means um indifference

and neutrality are an expression of the fact that I don’t love my brother as I should.

And so God is calling people today to be watchmen and watch women on the walls.

Are you ever have you look back in your life? Have you ever are you grateful for the people that took you to one side and

said something to you that at the time was painful, but when they said when they said it to you, you realized this was probably God speaking at that time.

There have been people said things to me. They’ve pulled me to one side and said, “Brother Vine, I need to tell you something.” And they’ve told it they

told me something. And I’ve realized, yeah, they’re right. I hate to admit it, but they’re right. And I’m grateful for those kind of

people. We have that in marriage. At least I have that in marriage as well. My wife

says, my wife says, “Connor, I have an idea.” And she gives a really good idea. I think, “Why didn’t I think of that?”

And I’ll say, “Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I’m not going to commit to anything.” Then a week later, I’ll say, “You know, I just

had a brilliant idea.” And I’ll say exactly what she just said to me. My wife being a wise wife, she

doesn’t say, “Oh, I see I told you that a week ago.” She says, “What a wonderful idea, Conrad.”

Amen. Says somebody, “Thank the Lord for wise and judicious wives.” Yes. Yes. And

so, but there are people who call pulled me to one side and said, “Brother Vine, this and this and this is wrong in your

life. This is what I see. I’m not going to announce it to the world, but I counsel you to change the course that you’re taking here.” At the time it

wasn’t pleasant, but I’m grateful for those people. Being a watchman on the wall doesn’t necessarily mean you have to stand in

the pull pits and preach. It may mean that you take somebody out for a meal and you fast for two days beforehand.

You fast for that meeting and you say, “Look, I’m going to say this in love and I won’t say it again, but this is what the Lord has impressed upon me to share

with you. This is what you need to hear. I’m not going to put it on Facebook. I’m not going to announce it to the world. I’m not going to gossip over potluck

about it, but this is what you need to hear. I say this because God loves you and I love you and I want you to be saved.

That’s also being a watchman on the wall and it takes courage and love for the person to actually give them a message

like that. So our next slide discusses this last this last slide in this particular section here.

It says it is the duty of both watchmen and laymen to give the trumpet a certain sound. Some are inclined to think that

too great a stir is being made. But their position that their pos but in their position of ease they say to the people peace and safety when sudden

destruction is about to fall upon the world. God calls the watchmen and and privates connected with his army to

strengthen the outposts and to guard the fort. What site is basically saying is

this uh some people would rather have peace and safety and comfort and pretend not to notice anything rather than be a

watchman on the walls. And the tragedy is God will raise up somebody else. He just won’t be able to

work through you. And you won’t receive the spiritual blessing of being a watchman on the wall because you’ve

passed it by because you don’t want to upset the apple cart. You don’t want to risk making somebody upset with you. You

don’t want to lose your social standing. You’re afraid they’re going to use it against you in the future. You may lose a business contract or something. And so

it’s easy just to pretend to look the other way and to pretend everything is okay.

And but God is asking the watchmen and the layman, it says there, to give the trumpet a certain sound.

And so I want to challenge you here today. When the spotlight falls upon you or you’re called to speak up about

something, give the trumpet a certain sound and ask God to work through you in

a way that is redemptive rather than destructive. Ask God to work you through in a way that will redeem a soul from

some from from eternal loss. that will um bring them back into the narrow path of righteousness that may actually

change the way that you live your life. God may convict you to say somebody something to somebody else and in the

same time he’s convicting you of the same matter yourself. And so if we when the spotlight falls

upon us, we to speak out for the Lord. Um God is looking for watchmen and watch women and lay people, it says on the

screen there from the reviewing from the review and herald there. and to give the trumpet a certain sound. Which leads us

to We’re almost at the end, brothers and sisters. Okay. It’s been a long afternoon. So, how much time have I been

on this now, sis? Was that 50 45 minutes you said? You’re about 15. I’m about 15 now. All right. Okay.

More like 55. More like 55. All right. Okay. Better if you said more like 49, but never mind.

Say, so next slide there, it talks there about reproofs and warnings. And next slide then. And thank you. And so this

is a quote from the from the Apostle Paul, his testimony to the elders of Ephesus. And uh this is he’s he’s

describing his ministry among them as an elder. And he describes how he did a house-to-house ministry. And look at the

bits in red. I’ll just read the bits in red here. It’s taken from Exodus 20:18-27. The Apostle Paul says this. He said, “I

did not shrink from doing anything helpful, proclaiming the message to you and teaching you publicly and from house

to house.” Then he goes on to say, “Therefore, I declare to you this day that I’m not responsible for the blood

of any of you, for I did not shrink from declaring the whole purpose of God.”

So what does the Apostle Paul says? He says, “I didn’t shrink from doing anything that was in your for your

benefit. I didn’t just go home after potluck and talk with my wife about something and

grumble about something. I actually dealt with the issues. I didn’t shrink from it.

He says, “And therefore, because I didn’t shrink from doing the right thing, I’m not responsible for the blood

of any of you. I may have given you warning. You could have accepted it or rejected it, but the fact is I warned

you. I’ve discharged my responsibility as a minister of the gospel. Now, it’s up between you and the Lord how you

respond.” And so part of the role of watchmen, part of the role of ministers of the

gospel, part of the role of elders and deacons and deaconesses is to not shrink from laboring for the

salvation of others, including not shrink from saying things that may be

kind of difficult to say. And the next slide goes on. Sister White commends this. She speaks explicitly

about this passage and she says in acts 20 17-35 this this example of the apostle Paul

she says we see outlined the character of a Christian minister who faithfully performed his duty he was an allround

minister and the word for minister and pastor and

elder in the new testament it’s all the same word the word for pastor and elder is the

same word there’s no difference in the new Testament between pastors and elders.

Nowadays, we see there’s a big difference. Pastors are paid by the conference. Elders are local local business people. They have their own

business or employees of a business locally. But in the New Testament church, there is no difference between

pastors and elders. So you could fit into this slot here. In Acts 20 was outlined the character of a Christian

elder who faithfully performed his duty. And that means if if God calls you into

a leadership position as an elder, please don’t shrink from the duties that come along with it. Don’t shrink from

laboring for souls. Don’t shrink from pointing out to people that their current course of action is going to

take them over a cliff. Don’t shrink from it because if you’re not going to do it, God’s going to have

to raise somebody else. And maybe God has put you into this role for such a time as this. So don’t shrink from these

responsibilities. We want to be able to, if you’re a pastor, leave one congregation, go to another, and say, “I

declared to you all the will of God. I did not shrink from it. How you respond to it is now on your own heads. But I’m

not responsible for your blood. I’m not going to turn a blind eye to a couple living in sin in the church. I’m not

going to turn a blind eye to someone who’s got a gambling addiction in the church. I’m not going to turn a blind eye to someone who’s cheating on their

taxes and boasting about it or cheating on their credit card insurance. It’s my responsibility as a minister of the

gospel to point these things things out to you in love with the thus sayith the Lord and to appeal to you to change your

course so that this path does not lead you to eternal destruction and that’s the responsibility of every elder within

this gathering here today not just the pastors is every elder has that responsibility

and if you look at the New Testament deacons in the time of Steven did what pastors do today essentially if you look

at what they actually did and so deacons also have that responsibility and deaconesses

to be faithful watchmen on the walls to form the duty of a Christian minister faithfully. Uh the last quote in this

passage here is from first selected messages. It’s the next slide. It says the word of the lord

um no it’s the next slide after that please. Oh okay go back a slide then. Yes I’m

sorry. So the word of the Lord comes to us all who have not resisted his spirit by determining not to hear and obey.

This voice is heard in warnings, in counsels, in reproof. It is the Lord’s message of light to his people. If we

wait for louder calls or better opportunities, the light may be withdrawn and we left in darkness. The

word is this, go forward, discharge your individual duty and leave all the consequences in the hands of God.

And so we do as God asks us to do. we discharge our spiritual responsibilities and then we can leave the consequences

in the hands of God. And the thing about this warning here is the light may be withdrawn and we will be left in

darkness. Like you may receive a warning from the Lord through a brother or sister and you

you harden your heart to it. You may not get that warning again. God may just say Ephraim is joined unto idols. Let her

alone. And that has terrible consequences. So if somebody speaks the

truth in love to you, don’t be angry with them. Go home and pray about it and say, “Lord, what would you have me learn

from this? How would you have me change my life?” And if God asks you to bear that kind of

message to somebody else, you know, examples like Nathan coming before David to rebuke him for the sin of Ba Sheba,

that wasn’t an easy thing for Nathan to do. It wasn’t easy for Elijah to come before Ahab in First Kings 17 and 18 and

they say, “Uh, for three and a half years there’ll be no rain in Israel.” That’s like going in front of Congress and saying there’s going to be no money

printing for three and a half years and the whole economy is going to collapse for three and a half years because that’s what’s going to happen if there’s

no money printing. And so it’s not an easy thing to do this which leads us to the final the final uh

se section of our e afternoon journey here which is sighing over the body of Christ. You know, if you’re going to if

you’re if you’re being if you’re going to be a watchman on the wall, if you’re going to be a faithful minister of the gospel, there has to be an emotional

connection to those you’re serving. There has to be a grieving over the path that we’re on. And there needs to be a

yearning for them to walk in the paths of righteousness. And so, the first quote we have there is

from Ezekiel chapter 9 3-6. I’m just going to read the bits in red because time is moving on. Says, “Go through the

city, through Jerusalem. put a mark on their foreheads of those who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are

committed in it. And so in in this story, this is judgment coming upon Judah just before the final destruction

by Nebuchadnezzar. And God knows among his people those who

are they’re not in positions of leadership, but they are deeply grieved over what is happening among God’s people. And you may not be able to

change what’s happening among God’s people, but at least you’re not participating in it, but you’re deeply

grieved by it. And God sees that. And this passage here, God says, “Put a mark on them that they’re going to be

protected because they weren’t in a position to change anything, but they didn’t encourage it either. They were

grieving over what is happening in the body of Christ.” The next slide goes on to say this from third testimonies. If

wrongs are apparent among his people, and if the servants of God pass on indifferent to them, they virtually

sustain and justify the sinner and all alike and are alike guilty and will just

as surely receive the displeasure of God, for they will be made responsible for the sins of the guilty. And she goes

on to say in the next slide she says in vision I have been I have been pointed in many instances where where the

displeasure of God has been incurred by neglect on the part of his servants to deal with the wrongs and sins existing

among them. Those who have excused these wrongs have been thought by the people to have very amable to be very amiable

and lovely in disposition simply because they shuns to discharge a plain scriptural duty. The task was not

agreeable to their feelings therefore they avoided it. I mean, she could have been writing about what’s happening in

2025 that there are some people today and everybody thinks they’re very lovely and

amiable and it’s easy to get along with them and we think that because they are not they’re refusing to discharge their

plain scriptural duty which may be to confront sin, open sin in the body of Christ. So, it’s easy to take the

comfortable path. It’s easy to take the popular path. It’s easy to take the path of silence and pretending we don’t see

anything. And sister White says it happened in her day and it’s happening in our day as

well. But that’s not what brings God honor and glory. The next quote talks

about this, the last quote in this section in a bit more detail. She says, “The true people of God who have the

spirit of the work of the Lord and the salvation of souls at heart will ever view sin in its real sinful character.”

I’ve often thought about this this phrase here. I think the reason that we take sin so lightly is because we’ve

lost a sense of how serious sin really is. It was one sin took Adam and Eve out of

the Garden of Eden. It was one sin kept Moses from entering the promised land. I

don’t think we realize how serious sin really is. And when we’ve lost a sense of how serious sin really is. Oh yeah,

they just have Yeah, that’s a young couple. They’re living together. Everybody does that now. We turn a blind eye to it. We excuse it.

because we’ve lost a sense of how sin how evil sin really is. Therefore, we’ve

lost a sense of our wonder, how precious salvation is. If you don’t think the problem is a big

deal, you’re not going to think the solution is a big deal either. But when you realize how how terrible sin really

is, then you realize how wonderful salvation really is.

And so we we are told here that we are to view sin in its real sinful character. Especially in the closing

work of the church, we read in the sealing time of the 144,000 who had to stand without fault before the throne of

God where they feel most deeply the wrongs of God’s professed people. So uh

when we talk about the spotlight falling upon you, maybe you having to stand up and speak out. There are there are occasions in life and ministry where you

can’t change anything. But God still knows whether you are sighing and crying in your heart over the abominations that

done in Israel or not. God knows whether you’re emotionally on board with the sin or and he and he also knows whether

emotionally and spiritually you’re rejecting the sin in its entirety. God sees these things. And even if you’re

not in a position where you can stand up and speak out about anything, at least God knows in your heart you’re not going along with it. And so in the book of

Ezekiel, we’ve just read there, chapter nine, we see that um before that final judgment came upon God’s people there,

God put a mark of protection upon those who were in society. They couldn’t influence society. They weren’t in

positions of leadership, but they were sighing and groaning in their hearts. They knew that things were wrong.

So I want to encourage you to say don’t lose don’t become so blasze and

and used to sin that you lose a sense of how serious it really is.

Don’t lose the sense of sinfulness because if you if you lose the sense that sin is sin, you lose the sense that

salvation is important and salvation is everything.

Therefore, we need to recapture a sense that sin really is at the destruction of eternal life. That’s that’s a huge deal.

It’s a huge huge deal. So, what are we going to say in conclusion here today?

Our next slide in conclusion. There’s a very famous passage here from

early writings. She I asked the meaning of the shaking I’d seen was shown that it was caused by the straight testimony

called forth by the council of the true witness to the Leodysans. This will have its effect upon the heart of the

receiver and will lead him to exalt the standard and pour forth the straight truth. Some will not bear the straight

testimony. They’ll rise up against it. And this is what will cause a shaking among God’s people. So we speak about

the shaking in Adventism before the coming of Christ before the close of probation is going to be a shaking. What

causes that shaking? Shaking is called by the straight testimony. And the straight testimony elsewhere is consists

of councils and warnings and reproofs given to God’s people before the close

of probation to wake them up to our true spiritual condition, mine included, and appoint us to a better way with our Lord

and Savior Jesus Christ. And so the shaking

doesn’t happen because God is upset with his church. The shaking is God trying to wake us up and realize the urgency of

the of our true spiritual need. And it comes through reproofs and

councils and warnings. It comes through the the council of the true witness to the Leodysans. You know the Leodysian

church, they’re lukewarm. Yes. And is that lukewarm church heading for

destruction or is it heading for salvation in Revelation 3? It’s heading for destruction.

So the church as a whole is heading for destruction. But then Jesus says, “Behold, I stand at the door.” Then he

says, “If and knock and if any man hears my voice and opens, I will come in and suck with him and he with me.” And so

what Jesus is saying in that passage is is you may be in a congregation or a church that is so lukewarm it’s heading

for destruction, but if you open the door of your heart to me, then you can still be saved. Don’t go down with the

ship. Don’t go down with the ship. The Leodysian church without repentance and

be turning hot instead of lukewarm is facing eternal destruction. But it’s possible to be saved even

within the midst of the Leodysian church. So in conclusion, I’d say this very simply, summary of all I’ve said

today. It’s been a long journey today. Actually, my brain’s getting tired at this stage, but um we spoke we spoke

about two things this morning. One was the 10 virgins and the one was about the doctrine of the church for Sabbath school. I would say there’s four things.

One is kneel down. Kneel down in prayer before God.

Confess your sins and ask for the infilling of the Holy Spirit. So kneel down. And secondly, stand up. Don’t be

afraid to stand up for what you believe in. Don’t be afraid to stand up for the truth. Don’t be afraid to be a watchman

on the wall. I’ve lived through my affair of council culture. And let me tell you this, it’s not the be all and

end all of everything. It’s not the end of the world. You can still live in the midst of cancel culture.

I’d rather be canceled by men and seek the pleasure of God than seek the approval of men and live in the

displeasure of God. So kneel down in repentance and

confession and asking for the infilling of the Holy Spirit. Stand up. Stand up for what you believe in. And the third

thing is speak out. Speak out in due season. You don’t have to speak out all the time, but there are

seasons when it’s somebody is called to speak out. I have sat in plenty meetings where I’m sitting there thinking,

“Somebody needs to say something. Somebody needs to say something. Oh Lord, let it not be me, but somebody

needs to say something.” And when somebody did say something, I’m saying, “Thank you, Lord. That person

risked their relationship with the entire group to speak out. I’m grateful that person spoke out. And

I’m grateful it was them. And I’m grateful it wasn’t me. And I Lord, I would have done it if you give me another five seconds. But Lord, I’m

grateful it was that person. We liked reading about Martin Luther,

but it can’t been easy to be Martin Luther. So, kneel down, stand out, stand up,

speak out, and trust God. We started out this morning, Matthew 24.

The disciples want to know about the end of time and the destruction of the temple and the end of the world as they knew it and the end of the ages and and

they they want to know about the time of the end. And Jesus responds by saying, “Lo, I’m with you always, even to the

end of time.” Whatever else happens, Jesus promises to be with his faithful disciples. He

promises to be with you. So, I encourage you again, kneel down, stand up, speak

out. There’s an emergency. is called sin and there is salvation possible. And if

we don’t speak out in our generation, who will speak for us? Who will speak for us? Kneel down, stand

up, speak out, and leave the consequences in the hands of God. And may God bless us as we shine for him

until Christ comes again in the clouds of glory here in Upper Michigan. Let’s close here with a word of prayer. Our

dear heavenly father, we thank you for the privilege we have of worshiping you, Lord. Thank you that as the Simon says,

“What is man?” That you’re mindful of him. And uh Lord, I thank you that this little speck of dust that hangs in space

that you have a deep concern for every being on this planet. And Lord, as we live our lives, as we shine for you here

in Michigan and up in Canada as well, Lord, I’m asking that um our faith will

be intelligence intelligent. It will be robust. It will be articulate. It will be unashamed. It will be forthright. It

will be winsome. It will be loving. and it will lead people to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So I pray Lord that

we will not be on the injured reserve in the armies of God, but that we will indeed be watchmen on the wall. We’ll be

active members of the armies of God um standing up and speaking out and speaking forth and winning souls in the

in the battle for souls. So Lord, speak through us. Guide us for when to speak. Guide us when to be quiet. May your Holy

Spirit um bless all that we do. May May we speak the truth, but may it always be tinged with grace. And may people know

that we are a people who spend time with the man from Nazareth. We ask you these mercies in Jesus’ name. Amen.